Politics Best Posts: 2020 Democratic Presidential Primary

  1. M Solo
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    M Solo Fresh Outta London

    Jan 14, 2020
    Trump was right. They are the Do Nothing Dems. 4 f---ing years to prepare and they are going to blow it.

    What the f--- is Liz thinking? What is Pelosi doing?

    I guess they are going to go let Joe Biden get beat by historical margins in November. Unreal.

    Bernie is the only person left that can defeat Trump at this point and the DNC is going to cut off their nose to spite their face to make sure he isn't the nominee. No words.
     
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  2. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    Mar 6, 2020
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  3. WPG
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    Jan 30, 2020
    when bernie curb stomps biden over the next 60 days >>>>>>>>>>>>
     
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  4. DKC
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    DKC hank trill

    Apr 8, 2020
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  5. dna hits
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    May 6, 2019
    I’d be ok with yang. Anyone except Harris (the younger evil Hillary Clinton 2.0) and Biden. It’s not looking good for the Democrats. For some odd reason, Democrats have Sanders blacklisted and only bash him on CNN or other Democratic favorite stations, and press. He’s the only one who could realistically put a good fight against trump. He’d get a ton of young voters. People who want someone who actually cares about the US citizens and not just the candidates own reputation.

    I’ll literally lmao if Biden ends up being the front runner for the Democrats. How f---ing stupid can they be? Instead of focusing on this dumbass Mueller report the last 4 years, they should have been working on setting up a Democrat with big plans and ways to turn the Americans on trump. Now time is running out, and it’s looking like they’re going to run old man Biden. Who has a more shady past than Trump. Just f---ing mind blowing how r-----ed the Democratic Party got since trump was elected, and they have been embarrassed by Trump and stomped on the past 4 years by him.
     
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  6. lil uzi vert stan
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    Apr 18, 2020
     
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    Apr 11, 2020
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  8. M Solo
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    M Solo Fresh Outta London

    Mar 10, 2020

    I just want to win.

    And I don't think a man with dementia challenging the much needed working class voters to fist fights and push up contests while calling them fatso and insulting their intelligence is a winning strategy

    Maybe telling them he doesn't work for them like he did today will get it done though.
     
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  9. Swizz
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    Mar 10, 2020
    I did NOT have " @M Solo comes out against anger and agitation" on my bingo card
     
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  10. M Solo
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    M Solo Fresh Outta London

    Mar 5, 2020
    So Warren is out and I couldn't be more thrilled because now it's one on one and Joe Biden will be under the bright lights against Bernie with nowhere to hide.

    Again, I don't dislike Biden but he's not fit to run and that is going to be more clear than ever in the upcoming debates.
     
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  11. Swizz
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    Mar 3, 2020
    Are you implying Warren is "throwing the race" to Biden? lol gonna need evidence for that. Warren is both personally and ideologically closer to Bernie than Biden - by a lot. I don't see any reason to suspect she's trying to sabotage Bernie, although I know he's always the victim so I'm sure you'll tell me why I'm wrong.

    Right I wouldn't argue that it's the same scenario exactly. But Bernie stayed in wellllll after it was mathematically possible to win in 2016. I didn't see any arguments against that at the time from his supporters, but it certainly created headaches for Hillary and delayed/complicated later attempts at party unity. What Warren is doing as of today - isn't...that...harmful? It's still very early in this primary. The third or fourth place candidate (in a 20+ candidate race) staying in the contest until Super Tuesday isn't ridiculous at all!

    Now, don't get me wrong, if Warren doesn't perform well tonight (which is likely), she should drop out ASAP.

    as for my thoughts on the race....................

    if I could cast a ballot today, it'd be for Warren. She's got the most fleshed-out policy platform, she's the most impressive on a debate stage, and she's hitting the sweet spot for me between the two options this contest is currently narrowing down to (squishy centrism vs socialism). And while she's not young, she's 8 years younger than the other two guys, which matters imho!

    If this contest becomes Bernie v Biden, which it inevitably seems to be doing, I will most likely vote for Biden.

    Before explaining that, let me first say that neither Bernie nor Biden were my first choice, nor my second, nor my third

    I've got plenty of fears about Biden - I think he's too old, and I think, until the last few, his debate performances have been abysmal. I hate that the whole Hunter Biden thing casts a shadow of scandal (although Trump would work that angle against even the cleanest candidate, I'm sure). I fear the climactic speech of the Democratic National Convention will be some fabricated memory of how Biden marched arm-and-arm for civil rights with the Planters Peanut, or something

    But what I keep circling back to, just like so many other Democrats watching this unfold, is the issue of electability. I of course incorrectly predicted the outcome of the 2016 election, so my punditry is hardly gospel. But my gut tells me that Bernie is much much easier for Republicans to run against. Socialism is still a dirty word to too much of the electorate. And even setting that word itself aside, a lot of what Bernie is opposing simply isn't popular on the merits, nevermind my personal stances. Medicare 4 All is a political minefield, and imho a stupid battlefield to forge this election on. If you have Biden fighting the healthcare fight, the public is on your side - it's him preserving Obamacare (popular), vs. Trump trying to destroy it (unpopular). Bring M4A into the discussion and all of a sudden it's the central issue with Dems on the defensive, because you're talking about massive tax increases and radical changes to healthcare for the entire country. I understand all the arguments for it - I'm just saying the American people aren't supportive if you look at the numbers. And we'd be fighting a losing battle for something that (can't stress this enough) has zero chance of becoming law.

    So with Bernie as the nominee, you've ceded perhaps Democrats' best issue vs. Trump. That's pretty huge! Let's be real, with the way this country is currently polarized, this election will be fought on the margins. Forget the true believers (people like @dna hits, voters with big "burns their mouth on their Hot Pocket because they couldn't wait for it to cool down" energy)...........this is going to come down to swing voters in a handful of crucial states. And the argument Biden is making is likely to be a lot more palatable than Bernie's plan to burn the system down. I mean, what swing states does Bernie win? Certainly not Florida, right?

    Few would disagree that Bernie will alienate some independents, and the counterargument (one that sounds compelling on its face) is that he will mobilize a dormant young electorate, bringing out voters who will vote for Bernie and Bernie only. Except.....the data just doesn't show that. NV is the only bright spot so far. Iowa turnout was dismal. NH turnout was good, but he only edged out Pete by what, 1% or so? SC turnout was very strong and he got demolished. The numbers just don't show this wave of young voters that his campaign says will materialize, so why should I believe it'll be there come November?

    I like and respect the h--- out of Bernie and if he is the nominee I won't lose a wink of sleep over the prospect of voting for him. He would move the country in the right direction and probably do a lot of great things (by executive order of course - because none of his major proposals are getting through Congress, as I said. His policy platform is a fairy tale). I'm just not convinced he's the best person to beat Donald Trump. Biden, for all his flaws (which are many), feels like a safer bet. And in a year where I'm more concerned with beating Trump than anything else, I'll take flawed and safe
     
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  12. DKC
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    DKC hank trill

    Jan 20, 2020
    prep for four more years of trump and have fun watching two demented old men snort adderall and ramble about corn pop, d-ck sizes, and ms universe at the debates
     
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  13. M Solo
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    M Solo Fresh Outta London

    Apr 19, 2020

    There are no words to describe how badly I want this guy and his supporters to lose in November. None.
     
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  14. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    Apr 13, 2020


    Need Sanders to be active on the campaign trail. Very good step forward!
     
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  15. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    Mar 12, 2020
    I’ve been saying for a couple years now that a recession in 2020 wouldn’t surprise me but I sure as h--- didn’t have global pandemic mixed with inept government response on my bingo card lol.
     
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  16. lil uzi vert stan
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    Mar 12, 2020
    @WPG, I know you miss your mom (Warren), and I know you miss your dad (Bernie)
    When he's gone, but Biden will try to give you the life you never had
    He can see you're sad, even when you smile, even when you laugh
    He can see it in your eyes, deep inside you wanna cry
    'Cause you're scared, Bernie ain't there
    But he's with you in your prayers
    No more cryin', wipe them tears
    Biden's here, no more nightmares
    He's all you got in this world, when it spins, when it swirls
    When it whirls, when it twirls
    Lookin' puzzled, in a daze, I know it's confusin' you
    Bernie's always on the move, his losing always on the news
    He try to keep you sheltered from it, but somehow it seems
    The harder that he tried to do that, the more it backfires weeee
    All the things growin' up as Biden that he had to see
    Biden don't want you to see, but you see just as much as he did
    They did not plan it to be this way, Biden Bernie
    But things have got so bad between em, I don't see em ever bein'
    Together ever again, like they used to be when they're in the Senate
    But then, of course, everything always happens for a reason
    I guess it was never meant to be, but it's just something
    We have no control over, and that's what destiny is
    But no more worries, rest your head and go to sleep
    Maybe one day youll wake up and this'll all just be a dream

    [Hook] Now hush, wpg, don't you cry
    Everything's gonna be alright
    Stiffen that upper lip up, I told ya
    Biden's here to hold ya through the night
    I know Bernie's not here right now, and we don't know why
    We fear how we feel inside It may seem a little crazy
    But I promise, @Head Bussa won't be alright (heh)
     
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  17. Slyk
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    Slyk God made a prophet.

    Mar 5, 2020
    please don't.
     
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  18. M Solo
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    M Solo Fresh Outta London

    Mar 3, 2020
    This isn't even funny anymore.

     
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  19. DKC
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    DKC hank trill

    Feb 4, 2020
    I'm gonna be so pissed if I have to vote for mayor pete in the general

    I saw a bit ago that at 62% reporting he's leading in delegates by a bit but Bernie is leading in vote percentage by a bit.
     
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  20. WPG
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    Feb 4, 2020
    @Papa Alpha Andy are u just upset bc it looks like biden got 14 votes total :')
     
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