Politics 2020 Democratic Presidential Primary

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  1. M Solo
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    M Solo Fresh Outta London

    Nov 27, 2019
    Saw this yesterday. f--- Obama.

    I also saw the Q poll yesterday. Depressing to say the least.

    Does the DNC really think Joe Biden or Mayor Polling at 0% with blacks Pete can win?

    They are asking for a repeat of 2016. It's f---ing unbelievable.
     
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  2. DKC
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    DKC hank trill

    Nov 27, 2019
    did you see this article? lmao
    https://www.theroot.com/pete-buttigieg-is-a-lying-mf-1840038708
     
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  3. Zeugma
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    Zeugma thugger thugger my brother

    Nov 27, 2019
    so... do y'all American think Bernie can win this?
     
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  4. Head Bussa
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    Nov 27, 2019
    I think so. He has the most energy behind heem. As long as he gets 15% in Iowa and picks up some delegates there he’ll be good...he doesn’t have to win Iowa to be in solid shape...and he should win in New Hampshire and Nevada...he’s ahead in the polls there...with those wins he’ll gain momentum and show out for Super Tuesday.

    He needs to stop being nice in debates though. He doesn’t have to be a d-ck...but he needs to stop referring to Biden as “my good friend Joe.” He should call out his horrible record every chance he gets and also bring up how Pete lied about having black support in South Carolina.
     
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  5. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    Nov 27, 2019
    People who have called out Biden or been aggressive in general have free fallen in the polls. Harris, Castro, Gabbard etc. Warren & Sanders have polled pretty well up to this point & I don’t think it’s a coincidence that they’ve also been playing nice.
     
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  6. Head Bussa
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    Nov 27, 2019
    Tulsi helped tank Harris

    Tulsi hit Pete hard and he has slipped a bit..need more polls but nationally he’s pretty far behind ...people are going to be looking into Pete’s shady happenings as a result of her going at him and the recent negative articles about his issues with black support

    Tulsi hit Tim Ryan and he’s nowhere to be found

    If Bernie quit calling Joe his friend and simply called out Biden’s awful record more often it wouldn’t hurt Bernie at all. Biden would be the one to slip. Maybe Tulsi will do it for Bernie.
     
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  7. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    Nov 27, 2019
    People who like Tulsi already don’t like Harris & Buttigeig. Her kamikaze attacks on Biden haven’t done anything either.
     
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  8. Head Bussa
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    Nov 27, 2019
    Honestly I think after the December debate Yang and Tulsi should drop out. That’d be at least an extra 6 point bump for Sanders

    Bloomberg and Deval Patrick will take 3-4 points away from Biden

    And if Bernie starts to truly slip I’d want him to drop out and endorse Warren...vice versa
     
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  10. YesLes
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    YesLes Banned

    Nov 27, 2019
    Inconvenient fact for Bernie Bros: Trump is the grassroots small-donor candidate in 2020 not Sanders

    Sanders: https://www.opensecrets.org/2020-presidential-race/candidate?id=N00000528

    Trump: https://www.opensecrets.org/2020-presidential-race/candidate?id=N00023864

    @Head Bussa
     
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  11. M Solo
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    M Solo Fresh Outta London

    Nov 27, 2019
    I agree. But let me ask why the f--- is Amy f---ing Klobechar going to be there? Kamala, too.

    Less than 70 days away until it's time to to vote. Biden, Warren, Bernie and Booty Judge. Time for the main event.
     
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    YesLes Banned

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    "Obama is more threatened by a Socialist Jew than a Canadian WASP that wore Blackface"

    Never mind that "Jew" and "socialist" are offensive enough considered alone, "Socialist Jew" should invoke in the educated mind the specter of the Bolshevik revolution, which was a bloody and tragic revolution led by Jewish socialist revolutionaries and funded by Jewish bankers. Blackface never hurt anyone. Magnificent ignorance on display here.
     
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  13. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    Nov 27, 2019
    You probably want Harris & Klobechar to stay in if you’re anti biden—especially Klobechar. Her supporters 2nd choice is Biden. Harris supporters 2nd choice is mostly Warren by Biden isn’t far behind either.
     
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  14. Alchemist34
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    Alchemist34 DO MY HEAD

    Nov 28, 2019
    was it though? I mean Tsar Nicholas II and his team were too authoritarian to allow any substantial reforms that one side wanted, but he also wasn't authoritarian enough to bring stability and peace of mind to the population. Not to mention defeat after defeat in catastrophic wars no one wanted so he couldn't even rule through military glory. It was the population that was suffering while he was going through his identity crisis on what kind of Tsar he should be. I'm not defending the reds that came after but the Tsar leadership had itself to blame for whatever/whoever was going to inevitably topple them
     
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  15. Head Bussa
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    Fake news brah @YesLes


     
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  16. Head Bussa
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    Nov 28, 2019
    I’m considered a “large donor” for Bernie because I’ve given over $200 total through many small dollar donations @YesLes

    It says Trump has raised the most $ for his campaign from “Other” areas while Bernie has raised the most of his $$ for campaign from everyday people. Over 50% of the $$ Trump has is from “Other”...Bernie doesn’t have an “Other” stat
     
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  17. icecube
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    icecube West Coast is the Best Coast

    Nov 28, 2019
    So when is the next election? Who are the candidates?

    I'm not from the US so only really understand the highlights.
     
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  18. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    Nov 28, 2019
    it’s primaries so there’s a ton of democratic candidates. The major ones are Joe Biden, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders & Pete Buttigieg. First primary election is 2/3/20 in Iowa.
     
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  19. Alchemist34
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    Alchemist34 DO MY HEAD

    Nov 28, 2019
    What do you guys think of Bernie's foreign policy plans? He talks about ending support for Saudis, withdrawing all troops from the middle east everywhere, strictly abiding by U.N rules like gospel etc. Is that even realistic at all? I feel like trying to reverse U.S foreign policy and influence that make it a global power/threat that radically is someone that would get you killed. There's no way certain people or "elite" like he calls them would just let that happen

    Unless they simply don't take it seriously because they're able to somehow stop any extreme measures through usual government shenanigans and just stone wall til he's out of office, making him just another president with admirable ideas but ultimately incompetent

    Besides, and i'm surprised I'm saying this but I'm not sure I even agree with his foreign policy vision. I would have back during the Iraq war. But now Russia's blatant snowballing ambitions internationally make me uncomfortable. I would prefer the U.S didn't just hand everything over to Russia. Just don't be a spastic there like Obama with the arab spring
     
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  20. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

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    This is precisely what would happen. I think he would certainly be tougher on Israel which is good but in terms of U.S. interventionism & pulling out of the Middle East—it’s easy to talk a big game, a lot tougher to actually do it. Both politically & practically. Obama & Trump both made big promises to bring troops home & they realized how difficult it was once in office. You can’t just pull out of a region you’ve had a presence in for over a decade. You create a vacuum that leads to more chaos, violence, instability etc. It’s a much more complex situation that most politicians raise it to be on tv.

    When talking about U.S. human rights abuses—especially in regards to their drone program—he can’t do much. Congress controls funding. He can propose slashing their budget but congress doesn’t have to listen. Republicans would paint him as soft on national defense. Say by some miracle, he does significantly cut the drone program & U.S. soldiers die overseas or a terrorist attack occurs on U.S. soil—he’s going to be painted responsible. This is why since 9/11 so many politicians have stayed away from suggesting defense cuts—no one wants to be painted as soft on terrorism or be scapegoated for why Americans died.
     
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