Politics 2024 General Election Thread

Started by Enigma, Apr 28, 2020, in Life Add to Reading List

Who did you/are you voting for?

This poll will close on Nov 6, 2024 at 9:52 AM.
  1. Joe Biden

  2. Donald Trump

  3. Third Party

  4. Abstaining

  5. Not a US Citizen, but would vote Biden

  6. Not a US Citizen, but would vote Trump

  7. Not a US Citizen, but would vote third party or abstain

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  1. srsbsns
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    Jul 7, 2024
    Should political debates be interesting though? I'd prefer if it was a dry a--- discussion for hours whether 0,3% raise of some farmer subsidies for using some specific feed instead the prime-time entertainment attempts when people act like sport supporters.
     
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  2. Michael Myers
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    Michael Myers Moderator

    Jul 7, 2024
    Most debates and campaing speeches are just oneliners and empty promises.
    And yeah people cheer like their footballteam scored a goal. Dumbest thing ever lol. Nobody cares about the actual message just the show. Kinda like the wrestling people watch over there that isn't actual fighting but a drama show.

    Not just in US btw but its the best example
     
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  3. srsbsns
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    Jul 7, 2024
    US just seems ahead of the curve but that sports approach and debates losing all substance feels more common and common in Europe too now. s---'s dumb but also pretty sad and I can't see it improving anytime soon.
     
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  4. Michael Myers
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    Michael Myers Moderator

    Jul 7, 2024
    Yup. The winner of our elections, Geert Willders, also saw him in debates he makes gr8 oneliners and says what people wanna hear. He was opposition for 20 years.

    Now he has to actually take responsibilty (since a week) very curious how it will play out lol
     
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  5. DKC
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    DKC hank trill

    Jul 7, 2024
    This is the thing I hate most about US politics, is that so many people treat Democrats and Republicans like the parties are their home team. If they s--- and aren't serving the peoples' best interests, they don't deserve your loyalty!
     
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  6. Michael Myers
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    Michael Myers Moderator

    Jul 7, 2024
    Lol yeah. Sad thing is people aren't sensitive for solutions or actual content.. they just wanna hear people acknowledge their problems lol.

    Here we have a party (also the biggest one atm) thats against immigration. I personally believe its a problem right now, and it needs solutions. We can't just let anyone in let alone people stay that cause problems. But we have someone that says WE GONNA CLOSE THE BORDERS AND SEND THEM ALL HOME!!

    Like, thats not even possible with all the European contracts and s--- and it's obviously overreacting. But thats what people want to hear so they all voted for him. Nobody wonders... how is he gonna do that? Is it at all possible?

    Its not as bad as a political debate like Biden v Trump that has to be an 'event' rather than an actual debate with content, but still lol.
     
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  7. dna hits
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    Jul 7, 2024
    Idk if an alias yet, but a few debates are needed. You can’t forget how to do fair debate, dating back 50+ years before internet. let candidate's say their plans and foreign policy, and it can sway who some Americans are on the fence with. It wasn’t a clown show, until Trump started saying dumbed down responses that got his fan base fired up.

    We still need parties with their own separate pros to keep things more of a level playing field. I can remember in school, government class, about everyone in the class watched the Obama/Romney debate and discussed it into detail. But they are awful now, only because of the candidates. They have to add an age restriction under 70-72 at least, eventually.
     
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  8. srsbsns
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    Jul 7, 2024
    Debates are probably unavoidable but their utility seems extremely questionable, since the debating skills and your own presentation play a much bigger role than what you're actually saying or know or want to do even before the clown show since 2016. And as bad as the candidates are, it's not like it's happening in a vacuum. The media happily eats up the shitfest and the voters seem resigned instead of pushing for better candidates.
     
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  9. dna hits
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    Jul 7, 2024
    Debating is also about your public speaking skills. You should be able to address the nation live after a situation like 9/11, and feel comfortable about it as a citizen, because of how the president is addressing it. No way would I want sleepy homicide Joe or Trump who just wants to pardon himself, to address and take action after an attack. And these 2 are awful at political debates. The worst (current, felon Trump) candidates since I can remember since born.
     
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  10. srsbsns
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    Jul 8, 2024 at 12:33 AM
    Aye, fair enough. Didn't consider that since I prefer reading a statement over listening to some speech. Though Biden almost falling asleep and confusing Al Qaida with Argentina or smth would be quite memorable.
     
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  11. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    Jul 8, 2024 at 4:06 PM
    Trump will ramble about nonsense but he says it loudly & with confidence so no one really thinks twice about it as an age thing. He's also a pathological liar & everyone has just become immune to him spewing bs.

    The uncomfortable reality of the current situation is that the only realistic alternative to Biden is Kamala Harris & there's little evidence out there that she would (or any other candidate for that matter) be doing much better. I think Democratic elites are being a bit too reactionary right now. Publicly calling for Biden to step out the race while understanding that they can't force him out only keeps the news media harping on this story while Trump can try to run out the clock. His campaign currently has zero scheduled campaign events. They know keeping Trump out of media headlines is key.
     
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  12. hargydon
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    hargydon No investigation, no right to speak

    Jul 8, 2024 at 4:33 PM
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  13. srsbsns
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    Jul 8, 2024 at 10:48 PM
    The party looks more incompetent than Biden with that crazy over-reaction. I don't know anyone who planned to vote for Biden (well, mostly against donald) to change their mind after the debate. Instead of changing the topic and switching to talk about policy, they keep feeding into the media which only helps donald too.
     
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  14. shaneomac
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    Jul 9, 2024 at 2:22 AM
    Trump should of won in 2020 wouldn't have this mess with war and border issues guaranteed . Need to bring a true patriot Trump and fix what biden did
     
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    Jul 9, 2024 at 3:51 AM
    Given that russia was already active in Ukraine and Syria (and North Africa) and immigration kept increasing under Trump aside of covid years … there is like zero basis for these ideas.
     
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  16. OneLastPost
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    OneLastPost Houdini is TES LEVEL

    Jul 10, 2024 at 3:03 AM
    Yah . Definitely not voting for Biden..
     
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  17. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    Jul 10, 2024 at 9:17 AM
    Yup. Democratic elected officials (& other elites) reaction to the poor debate performance was self-defeating.

    In an alternate universe, Democrats publicly defend Biden after the debate & keep their skepticism of him being the nominee private.
     
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  18. BIG MONKEY
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    BIG MONKEY slummin' it

    Jul 10, 2024 at 9:39 AM
    There's little evidence that [blah blah] :emoji_nerd:
     
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  19. Marsh
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    Marsh #TDOSS #BuyTheAlbum #MakeEminemGreatAgain

    Jul 12, 2024 at 2:52 AM
     
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  20. Michael Myers
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    Jul 12, 2024 at 4:12 AM
    Lmao did Biden really confuse Kamala with Trump and Zelensky w Putin? :'(:'(:'(:'(
     
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