Anyone else watching Unsolved: Tupac & Biggie on USA network ??

Started by Big Dangerous, Mar 7, 2018, in Entertainment Add to Reading List

  1. Big Dangerous
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    I have never heard this anywhere. You can't just deny what the cop who first tended to Tupac says without a source man lol
     
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    Pac never spoke again when he was in the hospital, mopreme said Pac was shaking the bed and looking at him and looking like he really had to say something, but he never got it out. The song part he's referring to could be one of 2 things, Danny Boy sang to Pac as he was lying in the hospital, and then they also played the Don Mclean song 'Vincent' that Pac liked over and over again I guess too..but naw he didn't speak.
     
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    Very tragic
     
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    Apr 11, 2018
    why am i tearing up at this ? :mjcry:
     
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    I remember when I was like 11 and I was fully convinced that Pac was alive
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    Cause it's sad as f---
     
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    mans was a real G till the end "f--- you"

    also the way Suge and Pac were making that last eye contact and exchange is so sad

    i can't deal with this today foh :mjcry:
     
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    I don't think anything will top Tupac just because of the kind of person he was but think, Big got shot literally because Suge thought the Vegas shooting was related to Puffy. Dude was about to drop a mega album and had his entire life and music career ahead of him and he was basically murdered in cold blood one night because Tupac attacked Orlando Anderson months prior following that Tyson fight.
     
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    it's not Pac's fault they were pitted against eachother

    it was a mixture of negative environments for the both of them, unhealthy rivalry and prevalent g--- culture in music which they had both tried to escape but ultimately couldn't

    don't put this on pac man i think you're doing him a great injustice simplifying it like that
     
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    Neither the rivalry itself or BIG's death can all be attributed to Tupac but it was partly himself and (majorly) Suge to blame. Tupac already thought Bad Boy was in on the quad shooting, Suge came to him at his most vulnerable time and was a major negative influence and turned him into why he was post-prison. Because they were so intertwined by late 96, Tupac provoking his own murder set off a chain of events that got Big killed.

    Suge and Pac had taken it so far as to assault someone in order to find out Puffy's mom's address, whose to say that he hadn't made Suge promise him if some s--- popped off that he got Big back as retribution?

    You can hypothesize and talk about it forever but the end of the day I wish that stupid mfer didn't have to assault Orlando Anderson :mjcry:
     
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    Doesn't make sense to go back and analyze Pac's fault in this, i mean who are we? We weren't there or in people's mind at the time. There's no way to accurately paint a picture to this sad tale of fate. It just happened and it taught all of America to never repeat it again. Question is, did we learn from the outcome?
     
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    Exactly it was a rethorical question

    I actually blame media and the viewer for most of what happened, at the end they were entertainers and they just followed what the crowd wanted to see
     
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    In a way i do think rappers like Lil Yachty could've never existed without Pac and Biggie falling out

    it made us realize that we can't hate on other coasts/rappers/styles SO much that today we can even appreciate someone as Lil Yachty enough to not want to come out and assault him lol. Before that, beefs would occur over almost anything.
     
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    I don't think so
     
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    If Trayvon doesn’t tell Pac ‘There’s the guy that snatched my chain’ anyone know if Pac would have even recognized Orlando? Not sure he even knew who he was.

    Pac and his crew probably would have just kept walking and Orlando was originally there for the fight as far as I know, so Orlando wouldn’t have done s--- either I assume.
     
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    I think it was the opposite
     
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    I think it was basically a beef between death row and bad boy that the media blew up into an 'east vs. west' thing, although yeah some of the rappers ran with the east vs. west idea at times too. But I know I heard Pac say it was basically just between these 2 labels, then he was also working on a project with east coast rappers (one nation) to try to end that 'east vs. west' s---..

    So sad how it all played out, I really think another year or so and both sides would have been fine with each other, probably even made some music together or at least publicly squash it..I've heard people who knew Pac talk about this, plus the one nation project hints Pac was leaning that way and I have no doubt Biggie would have been cool with squashing it too.
     
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    Crazy part is at the end of the day depending how you interpret Who Shot Ya Biggie had little to nothing to really add to the beef while Tupac was alive. He was just caught up in Pac's s--- and Puffy/Suge and died because his rival got himself killed. Very sad
     
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    Last night's episode....:crying2:

    d---, RIP Pac...tough to watch.
     
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