Are White People ever going to consistently listen to Black Hip Hop Artists

Started by Big Dangerous, Mar 26, 2018, in Music Add to Reading List

  1. Big Dangerous
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    This basically what I mean. People gravitate away from black artists even though hip hop is the biggest genre out rn. Drake being the most popular artist in the US doesn't disprove this, there are still prejudices in the amount of people that hear drake and the amount of white people who choose to listen to him. Or Kendrick or chance, etc
     
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    I've never lived anywhere other than a city or a small college city, but I don't think I've heard anyone irl talk about yelawolf, logic, mgk, etc other than to make fun of them. And I'm from a very white state. WA is only like 4% black with Seattle not being much better at 8%. Though it's true that white people in Seattle are gonna be a lot different than white people in Bumfuck, North Dakota.

    I'm not saying that there aren't a bunch of white middle americans who don't like rap but will listen to white rappers out of racial prejudice (whether it's conscious or subconscious). However, there are also tons of white people who listen to black rappers and are still racist.
     
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    I never said they didnt respect the black artist, I said they listen to whatever is popular. If Drake or Q is popular, they like Drake or Q. If Logic or some other white rapper is popular, they listen to them. When Q released Man of the year thats all that was played.

    I did go to a majority black school though so Im sure that had an influence. If I met someone who says the dont like rap, they say its because of the subject matter of killing and d--- dealing, or they just dont like to hear people rap and not sing. So when a song like the suicide hotline song came out, theyd be more likely to listen to it, not because a white guy released it, but because it had a positive message and had a lot of singing.

    Ive never known anyone who has a problem with rap because its a black industry. Not saying those people arent out there, even black people hating white music is common and on this forum. Im sure there are rock forums that have people who hate rap because its a black industry.

    Im just speaking from my personal experience
     
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    You mentioned a good example I can speak from personally-- MGK. I know more people who will acknowledge and respect him as a musician over essentially every black artist except Drake. (Again, I hypothesize this is because drake is above skin color, he is a cultural entity). Crazy but true. Black artists don't have the virtue of being taken seriously as an artist by white people would ever think they could listen to that genre...even though (we as hip hop listeners) know that hip hop is hip hop mostly regardless of race or ethnicity.

    If someone like Chance was white he would be multiple times more popular simply because a specific, large group of people are more susceptible to the idea of him making respectable music. It's subtle racism ingrained in America and how they process music imo

    Not commenting on the actual quality of Chance's music, just speaking hypothetically
     
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    You need new friends
     
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    Didn't say they were my friends
     
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    And since ure a fa---- thats why you listen to young thug right?
    Most stupid s--- i read in this website.
    I listen to whoever the f--- i like, skin has nothing to do with it.
    Americans and their s---, ffs
     
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    And I think that's a different argument entirely—would a white rapper who appealed to a certain demographic/sound/etc have an easier time finding success than a black rapper who appealed to the same things? Of course. Just look at Post Malone—he was handed his first hit when had virtually no other music out. He's massively more popular than, say, Ty Dolla $ign, and Post sounds nearly identical to Ty Dolla in some instances. That's white privilege at its finest.

    It also brings me back to the "mumble rap" thing: "It’s a disparaging notion that, quite frankly, was probably somewhat rooted in racism in its initial use (even if most people who use it mean nothing by it at this point due to its more widespread use), as it’s a term that tends to be used to refer to southern black artists with thicker accents who use copious amounts of regional slang."
     
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    in other news I just looked up who "NF" is and really wish I hadn't
     
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    Exactly...there are a ton of black artists that sound just like post and who have been making his music forever...all of the sudden he's bigger than all of them. Because he's white. And there's no stigma for white america to listen and enjoy his music as respectable art.


    I don't cosign the term mumble rap btw
     
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    Jack White new album is coo
     
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    I don't know about a county of red necks but where I'm from 90% of young cacs listen to rap
     
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    Culturally the subject matter in hiphop is predominantly for ethnic groups originating from African heritage...just like corridos and latin music is for mainly latinos...if you are not of that race you don't really connect 100% with the music...the instruments however are universal...So the drums in hiphop are universal and the guitar/trumpets etc in latin music is universal...in regards to instruments one can say music is a universal language
     
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    Yes but there is definitely a large % disconnect that has nothing to do with heritage but instead racism and prejudice
     
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    Indeed...and oppression
     
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    Are u talking about black artists like young scooter youngboy etc?
     
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    The recent vid that went viral of the girl saying the n word at K Dot show speaks alot...It shows that hiphop is intended for one race but everyone is welcome to attend
     
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    Thought I bullied you off the internet
     
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    And at the same time not a good look for either...some (out of touch) white people I'm sure look at this vid and use it as proof like oh, that's what happens when we try to mingle into their music


    When in reality that's a whole other thing...no one should ever be expected to freely use the n word and saying that and enjoying/listening to rap music is not mutually exclusive
     
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    no idea who u are. tell the class again please
     
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