Oct 26, 2015i have doom second in 2004. kanye's technical shortcomings in the early going are wildly exaggerated--all falls down or two words or never let me down or we don't care etc etc etc are strong arguments to that effect. he was rapping better in 2010 (and maybe marginally in 2005? maybe?) but College Dropout is a masterpiece and as great as the production was, the impact was specifically because of his rapping/his identity as a rapper.
EDIT: so was he a better pure rapper than doom (or ghostface) in 2004? probably not, no. but he was good enough that CD's impact--one that, as i said, owes much more to his rapping than his production--was so massive that i think it gives him the edge.
for the record, i recently had to submit a ballot about the three best albums in each year, and Madvillainy beat The College Dropout for album of the year.
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