Drake Can we have an intelligent discussion on the reference tracks and ghost writing?

Started by Dew, May 1, 2016, in Drake Add to Reading List

  1. Soldier
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    i'm honestly just talking s--- lol
     
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    probably one of the reasons i was never fond of it. minus a few songs, it grew old fast.
     
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    s--- all sounds the same too, i'm a drake fan and i don't even know which one of the songs is "running through the 6 with my woes" dead a---, i just know its in one of the first 5 tracks which all sound the exact same.
     
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    exactly what i said back when it came out but everyone was going against me on that one. i said numerous times that IYRT just felt like listening to the same song the whole way through. i still like now and forever and the two joints with PND
     
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    from the production to drake's monotone rapping, iyrt was quite stale.
     
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    if PND wrote 75% of it, did these n----s write the other 25%? @Poohdini :laff:

    this n----- got a starting 5 and a bench for this track lmaoooo
     
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    Mr. Krabs. Jpg


    One of my favorites
     
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    agreed, but given that it clearly had a handful of gems, and that it was a tape, i'm no more mad at IYRT than I am with future's EVOL

    WATTBA might be the most frustrating project of all time tho
     
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    Ovo
    Over weight n----s only
     
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    well WATTBA was made in like 6 days so i wouldn't really expect much more. i'm sure we'll get something from promethazine papi again down the line. maybe after the tour.
     
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    yo idk man, like views is 20 tracks but i legit don't get fatigued at any moment, especially with how masterfully it's arranged. you can start the album at either the intro track or at with you (first track of the summer portion), and it's a fully cohesive experience either way.

    but IYRT is an exhausting listen for me, save 6-7 gems.

    the only solid projects drake got imo are Take Care, NWTS, and Views. that said, drake is much better than his projects, so he remains one of my top 4 favourites right now with YG, Kanye and Future.
     
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    Codeine Drake :sadpepe:
     
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    no lmfao
     
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    u guys are holding Views in a much higher regard then I am. I like the first half but idk the 2nd half drags for me.
     
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    i stopped listening to it top down, i usually just play tracks 8 to 16 and then repeat since that's the summer portion and it just rides well.

    the 1 to 7 stretch is the best part of the album though, and as self indulged as it is, that's drake at home with some obvious growth when it comes to song structure and letting the melody carry his music.

    i know the album is getting lukewarm reception, especially from those who were writing narratives as to why it would s--- before it even dropped ("drake is making a dancehall album LMAO", "imagine how corny an rnb disc and a rapping disc will be LOL" etc.) but if I found any redeemable case against this album by any of them, i might care.

    but views is exactly the album myself and every drake fan who was waiting on this s--- for 2 years wanted, so i'm not mad at anyones opinion, just thankful for how much i'm enjoying it myself. i was doubting i would after how average his output was for me in all of 2015.
     
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    yeah i feel u, like i said, there's definitely a few on here that are gonna be some summer anthems for sure. but as a project, it's just not resonating with me great. i like about halfway thru keep the family close till the end, love u with me, feel no ways, and weston road flows. idk i think i need to start listening to the 2nd half of the album more, all i been doing really is listening to the first 7 tracks or so.
     
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    this
     
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    word, the summer portion of the album (tracks 8 to 16) might not even be for you, but i'm not mad at that :idk:

    i live in canada, and that's probably why, but i've only come across one person IRL that isn't blown away by this joint lmao. this s--- is gonna ride for me all summer, whether or not i play it myself.
     
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    as for the reference tracks, it's one thing to get help with flows, hooks, or even have someone start a verse for you.

    releasing fully fleshed out songs as your own is very disappointing. i don't even listen to the rihanna version of Work anymore now that the PND reference track dropped. i doubt i'll listen to legend again.

    it doesn't make the song bad, it's as good as it ever was. but the allure is definitely lost, and it's hard to give an artist any credit under those circumstances.
     
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    yeah imma have to sit on it for a little bit before i can give my final thoughts on it honestly. controlla grew on me though.
     
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