Jun 9, 2018 i am a huge nelly fan but mmlp impact was much bigger than country grammar i am not sure how old @WPG is...but only someone who was at least 12 years old during that time is allowed to debate this
Jun 9, 2018 he for sure popularized it...i cant think of any that told stories his style before tho...a lot did after for sure
Jun 9, 2018 DMX wasn't the first to talk about killing and robbing but he definitely influenced GRODT. No idea is truly original. The manner in which Eminem exhibited these traits was fresh though.
Jun 9, 2018 Slick Rick, Biggie, Nas, Kool G Rap, Ice Cube, Scarface, even Atmosphere was out already.
Jun 9, 2018 Chino XL and Cage would disagree... Also, idk if DMX is the first rapper I'd credit for GRODT. Pretty standard NYC stuff. They were mostly contemporaries drawing from the same stuff. DMX famously didn't listen to much rap though (idk where I read that).
Jun 9, 2018 no, there is a clear difference between 2pac brendas got a baby storytelling and eminem just the two of us storytelling n----- stop playing
Jun 9, 2018 again, you are completely removing the popularized out of the equation .. it doesnt matter who started it...its who popularized it
Jun 9, 2018 They're about different things, but Brenda's Got Baby is the original "writing a letter to somebody" song. Sound like a familiar concept? (Stan) Was Murder Murder the first home invasion song? Nope
Jun 9, 2018 no we never did, i said popular sales based on first single...which is basically misleading popularity i dunno, i feel your arguing just for the sake of doing it at this point lol
Jun 9, 2018 I'm arguing because I disagree with you lol. What else should I do? Isn't this forum for discussing music?
Jun 9, 2018 yea but i have a feeling deep down you dont agree with what your saying, comparing brendas and stan just because they are about letters is outrageous
Jun 9, 2018 I mean kendrick and cole have said themselves that early eminem is one of their biggest influences but whatever, stay in denial.
Jun 9, 2018 for sure he was, no denying that...but pac never told micro stories is what im trying to say
Jun 9, 2018 It's the exact same narrative device he lifted from an artist he frequently referenced and even posthumously produced an album for.
Jun 9, 2018 lol i just noticed this, dude come on mate by your logic literally everyone influced everyone as long as we go back in time enough...
Jun 9, 2018 Biggie told more detailed stories in the same way you're saying Just the two of us is, I promise lol
Jun 9, 2018 I mean, you're arguing Em's storytelling was radically different from his predecessors yet the narrative device from his most famous one was lifted. Calling Em's storytelling innovative pretty much ignores the black guys who were doing it for 20 year prior. Of course, Stan is a great song, but that's not what your claim was.
