Film FlickYouCrew (S.80 Edition)

Started by Dew, Nov 23, 2014, in Entertainment Add to Reading List

  1. coil
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    Yo how you see the ck movie??? Wanna see it so bad
     
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    it leaked my guy :rejoice:
     
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    I did some snow things


     
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    So what's the argument for things like The Return, Big Little Lies, and Godless not being films? To categorize them differently just on how they're released when Lynch and Vallee have out directed pretty much everyone else in "cinema" this year seems so pointless. If it's as simple as looking/feeling like a movie, they do. What's the real difference here?

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    We almost got a eight hour version of Song to Song. Would that not be a film if it came out incrementally?
     
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  6. Twan
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    Out of curiosity, if the incremental or episodic nature doesn't necessarily make it "TV", what distinguishes TV from film for you (i.e. What does a movie look/feel like)? I don't have an especially strong opinion on the matter but whatever Twin Peaks: The Return is, it's my favorite moving image, narrative storytelling thing of 2017.
     
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    What I'd call TV shows are those that last for an indefinite time period and change year to year for any number of reasons. If a series has a clear beginning/middle/end going in over the course of a season, the only real difference is the length. Most TV is way more concerned with the narrative over anything else, so when a solo director can play with the form as they would in their movies, it doesn't feel like I'm watching a show. They're more cinematic than a majority of what I've seen this year.
     
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    This is an interesting topic, and when I went to UofT we did a conference on literally this subject (and Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me) played the theater.

    I presented on Kieslowski's Decalogue, discussing its merits both as television and film. I can't remember the thesis well right now (and don't feel like reading) but I some of the aspects I looked at were use of opening titles (and overt refrains to previous images/thoughts), pacing (television with its cues for intermission), and editing style (television more bombastic).

    I compared scenes from Decalogue V & VI with their film counterparts--Short Film about Love and Short Film about Killing. A major notice was that there is not much additional content in the films, but the scenes are significantly more drawn out. There is a sense of timing that is more 'filmic'. Fewer cuts, scenes blend together rather than having marked episodes between them.

    But it's not about the length of time; instead it's the way time passes and how it holds space for delving deeper into a kind of art-space where one might encounter nothingness/eternity/loss of time, while television makes near constant reference to its own time structure--television episodes fit within a block of time after all, and they are cut in such a way as to best utilize that amount of time.

    That said, people like Lynch give the 'film feel' to what would otherwise be strictly--and obviously--television. We're only talking about The Return as a movie because it feels different than tv; this feeling is an intuitive one, and is based on the director and his/her rhythm. The Return often has a film-mode rhythm. It also feels like television a lot of the time, though. Certain storylines such as the Dougie plot are more overtly televisual.

    These days, a lot of what passes as film seems television like. Film has been informed by Televison practices. They've realized that we consume television more easily because its rhythm has a quicker tempo and we all have A.D.D. But by having quicker cuts, marked episodes, and constant recognition of the episodes time-structure, we don't have any space held for deeper thoughts.

    Difference for me personally is that I will eat and watch tv, but I won't eat and watch film. Just doesn't seem right. I will eat during a modern blockbuster and won't during TP, though, so there's that...
     
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    Kam speaking facts.

    I won’t be able to give you all the technical reasons why The Return is a film but to me it feels like one and that’s the only thing that matters.
     
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    something for the Christmas spirit

    Remember II on Christmas :emoji_heart:
     
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    so star wars was kinda bad
     
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    seeing it tonight, heard there was a really bad twist at the end or something
     
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  13. Dew
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    im not even complaining about people's expectations with character arcs / plot points

    theres a ton of other problems
     
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    I liked when Luke drank space c-m
     
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    Interesting. U liked the prequels tho rite?

    (Pls note: I’ve seen it twice and am not disagreeing w u...per se)
     
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    I don't think they're good movies. They're pretty awful but I watch fhem
     
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    Seem to remember U saying u were a fan... but u might’ve been 15 atm lol

    Only reason I recall is I remembering (I think) realizing like.. wow there’s this whole generation or w/enwho grew up being ok w the prequels

    Anyways my daily beast piece...
     
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  19. Dew
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    i havent been 15 in 7 years
     
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    Along with getting Twin Peaks season 3 on Blu-ray, I also got this shirt from my brother for Christmas #blessed[​IMG]
     
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