Eminem From a strictly song writing, making hits, making cross over songs

Started by ConspiracyGang, Apr 1, 2017, in Eminem Add to Reading List

  1. ConspiracyGang
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    Eminem has been the best at it in hip hop since Recovery Not Afraid, Love The Way You Lie, Bezerk, The Monster. Recovery, MMLP 2 albums. These albums define what great cross over song writing is based on. Not Afraid is not a great song lyrically if we talking technical rap aspects. But from a song writing perspective hook, mainstream appeal, harmony, simple but relatable lyrics to an average person who experienced everyday issue like depression, production it is classic. Song writing is not based on technical lyricisim it is based on writing catchy songs with a message and melody. Eminem sales are based on this since TES. Though hip-hop heads find this type of music/songs 'corny' 'popish' the general public love it

    He gets critisized when he actually does the technical multi syallable packing, punchlines, double time flow, immature content on features he leaves that style to featured verses. Most people dislike this type of rap even many hip-hop heads

    An album that has sold 16 million Recovery WW is the definition of an album loved by the general public, pop fans, mainstream rap fans
     
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  2. Kush Gawd
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    Not afraid is corny as f---. One of the weaker tracks on recovery
     
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    real talk.

    Stronger Than I Was, Not Afraid, Monster are songs that other artists wish they had in their catalog. i mean what other song gets the twitter chicks riled up like these? none. because no one has ever made anything so pure & wholesome in their entire career.
     
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    Parodying something that is a reality doesn't take away from the fact it is real

    Chicks by general consensus typically do love records like Not Afraid, Stronger Than I Was and Monster that is their type of music
     
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    You've made this point about 100000 times please stop
     
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    I read your post with Donald Trump's voice in my head, and it made it even more hilarious.
     
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  7. Jb27
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    I actually love not afraid
     
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  8. ConspiracyGang
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    A billion people around the world do

    Sold 10 million on I-Tunes Diamond single first ever diamond certification for digital sales on 1 song ever in history

    Went straight to number 1 on the hot 100 billboard chart in May 2010

    Has over a billion views on youtube

    Was on an album that has sold 16 million and played a large part in the album selling that much

    Top 5 most successful and highest selling Eminem song in history

    Bought Eminem a new generation of young teenage fans along with the rest of the Recovery album

    1 of the most popular singles ever in music history

    His biggest hit since Lose Yourself

    Song that influenced his style on albums since Recovery. Hasn't stopped re emulating the Not Afraid catchy, motivational, uplifting, introspective single since (Gut's Over Fear, Kings Never Die, The Monster)

    A song that transcended way beyond hip-hop. Was heavily played on pop radio stations, rock radio stations
     
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    1. Stronger Than I Was
    2. Hailie's Song
    3. Mockingbird
    4. Beautiful
    5.Not Afraid
    6. Say Goodbye To Hollywood
    7. Cleaning Out My Closet
    8. When I'm Gone
    9. I Remember
    10. 8 Mile Road
     
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    ^^^^^Sings the hook on every song himself, produced all the songs himself, mixed the songs himself, no features on any of the songs, all songs are emotional with an introspective personal message, 3 of the songs are majority him singing on the whole song 2 singing verses, a singing hook, 1 rapped verse.

    Why he my fave Artist. He a complete actual musician/artist unlike most other rappers. He is the most complete and musical hip-hop artist of all time. Sings, Raps, Produces, Mixes. Has every type of songs concept and subject matter wise. Different variety of subjects. Most meloic hip-hop artist of all time has sung 95% of the hooks in his songs as well as singing a lot of bridges


    Top 10 features

    1. Talk To Me
    2. No More To Say
    3. Drama Setter
    4. Syllables
    5. Black Cotton
    6. Die Hard
    7 Welcome To D Block
    8. Lady
    9. Hands On You
    10. Bodyguard


    1. The Eminem Show
    2. The MMLP 2
    3. Recovery
    4. The MMLP
    5. The SSLP
    6. Encore
    7. Relapse

    1. Devil's Night
    2. D12 World
    3. 8 Mile S/T
    4. Shady XV
    5. The Re Up
    6. h--- The Sequel

    Best signed artists ever to Shady Records

    1. 50 Cent
    2. Dina Rae
    3. D12
    4. Obie Trice
    5. Skyler Grey
    6. Cashis
    7. Bobby Creekwater
    8. Yelawolf
    10. Westside Gunn
    11. Royce (Apart of BME)
    12. Slaughterhouse

    The Eminem Show Greatest ever album in music history with Thriller 2nd
     
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    Top 5 best songs on Recovery

    1. Not Afraid
    2. Going Through Changes
    3. Spacebound
    4. So Bad
    5. You're Never Over
     
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    Conspiracy is gonna eventually reveal himself to be Eminem, at this point that's the only possible explanation for all this.
     
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    d--- the way you talked not afraid up maybe realize when ever I die I'm going to need you to speak at my funeral to make me look extra good lmao. Made not afraid seem like it went triple diamond. I know a lot of ppl like it, but it doesn't seem like it on here. I rarely see ppl saying good things about it.
     
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    I'd take off 4 and 5 and put seduction, and 25 to life
     
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    I hate you so much.
     
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    Such a great song writer he relies on Rihanna and ghostwritten hooks for hit singles, and most often uses pre-produced tracks and ready-made songs to fill albums. He spends longer than ever making albums and apparently does nothing but record. Where is the music? Eminem used to be a great song writer.
     
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    Love The Way You Lie
    The Monster

    2 singles out of his entire catalogue featuring Rihanna lmao. How are they ghost written when the rare time he does get a singer to feature to do the hook. The singer that features is doing the hook and he doesn't claim to have wrote these 2 hooks for Rihanna or any other hook for a featured singer

    My Name Is
    The Real Slim Shady
    The Way I Am
    Cleaning Out My Closet
    Without Me
    Superman
    White America
    Lose Yourself
    Mockingbird
    Just Lose It
    Mosh
    When I'm Gone
    Crack A Bottle
    Beautiful
    Not Afraid
    No Love
    Bezerk


    All his singles where he sings the hook


    I can name all his songs where he sings or performs the hook himself and there will be over a 150 songs from his solo albums not even counting the hooks he does for features or hooks as part of a D12 member. Then it will be over 200 songs

    Where as u can only name 25-30 max songs of his that feature a singer doing the hook.

    Name 5 rappers who have sung more hooks in their career than Eminem u can't

    Where as 95% of rappers the Jay Z's who don't sing just rap bars on verses have relied on singers featuring to do the hooks on their songs. U can easily name over 100 Jay Z songs that feature a singer doing the hook

    And most the other rappers that do sing hooks and do majority of their hooks them self like Eminem such as Future, Drake, Young Thug, Rich Homie, Quan, Quavo use Autotune when singing their hooks. Eminem does it without using Autotune just straight up real singing no Autotune


    Only 2 Eminem albums feature singers featuring to do the hooks on half the songs Recovery and MMLP 2

    On every other Eminem album The SSLP, The MMLP, TES, Relapse, Refill he does the hook on practically every song on the album


    His highest selling albums ever the 2 highest selling hip-hop albums ever, his 2 diamond albums The MMLP and TES have him doing the hook on practically every song

    His 2 biggest, highest selling and most successful songs ever Lose Yourself and Not Afraid have him doing the hook
     
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