Sep 29, 2017 it's called being a story teller, there's literally nothing smart about saying that. Calling Kendrick a filmmaker is like calling Spike Lee a rapper just bc he incorporates hip hop themes into some of his movies. Kendrick is just a good story teller, plain and simple. Artist have been changing flows and tone in songs for years, that has nothing to do with filmmaking, again that is a way to further their storytelling
Sep 29, 2017 Yeah and he's saying that Kendrick adds an extra dimension that makes it more than raw story telling. You know what 'concept' means right? But yeah it has been done before. As an eminem fan, i would know. I mean the guy hasn't said anything wrong. You trying to call it stupid is just you being closed minded. Nothing wrong with being expressive. Give OP a break.
Sep 29, 2017 I just used the filmmaker analogy because of the way he uses storytelling and a consistent audible background and also certain tricks to his advantage. Past concept albums have been stories with an inconsistent audible background (in terms of beats and tricks) but Kendrick elevates storytelling and as a result manages to elevate the kind of concept album where it's more than a story into the mainstream. You people need to stop thinking in terms of "medium".
Sep 29, 2017 you have provided literally 0 proof as to why this makes kendrick a "filmmaker" other than saying "his stories have extra dimensions in them"
Sep 29, 2017 Oh... So as an artist I'm not supposed to have a consistent soundscape and have inconsistent beats and an inconsistent story? Kendrick's albums are the rap version of what I've dreamed a concept album in rap should be like. We've had Lupe's "The Cool" skim the water with the concept album thing but Kendrick has taken the "concept" of a "concept album" and basically made a audible version of a film. With rap's ability to provide more detail in words and the ability for it to incorporate different sounds into the songs, it allows for the possibility of what Kendrick is doing right now. As a person obsessed with concept albums and taking the concept of film and making it into an album, I'm at awe of what Kendrick was able to do. Kendrick may be popular right now but his penchant ability to make albums which is more than meets the eye has escape unscathed; how else would you explain the variety of interpretations that his stories have. Also if they were separate stories my post wouldn't hold weight but Kendrick has managed to make 3 albums on separate stories that wouldn't work with just one song and feel more fleshed out and compelling when portrayed throughout an album. Just my two cents like everybody else on the forum. Everybody has their own interpretation of Kendrick's work, I just choose to see Kendrick as an audible filmmaker.
Sep 29, 2017 please quote where he said Kendrick is a filmmaker. Are you not capable to understand an analogy?
Sep 29, 2017 he literally said he can't believe kendricks filmmaking skills, do you lack basic reading comprehension
Sep 29, 2017 If we're talking music videos I don't think anyone's topping ScHoolboy's blank face lp videos anytime soon
Sep 29, 2017 i mean no s--- music and movies are 2 very different mediums, I don't think op is arguing that. I just think the point is more so that Kendrick has a quasi filmmaker approach when making an album. He doesn't usually approach things as most other rappers do when making an album, that is creating individual songs then trying to fit them together, or just trying to make hit singles etc. He seems to have a clear narrative vision in mind, and builds around that, similar to a filmmaker. A filmmaker doesn't just make random scenes then try to put them together. Tpab isn't just your average storytelling rap. The album has a clear beginning (wesleys theory), climax (u) and resolution (mortal man). This is a structure that is much more commonplace in film and literature than in music. Which is why Kendrick even says "I'm not a rapper, I'm a writer". So yeah obviously he's not actually a filmmaker (yet), he just has some similarities with one imo.
Sep 29, 2017 thanks for proving my point. An analogy is not meant to be literal, so your argument is pretty much invalid. Seems like you are the one lacking, literally Edit: jheeeez so many geniuses on here trying to sound smart proving to us that music can not be a film. You don't f---ing say, have y'all figured that out by yourselves? Unbelievable.
Sep 29, 2017 Then he has more ties to literature than filmmaking lol. Filmmaking is not limited to that structure in the slightest.
Oct 27, 2017 Lol He wasn't the first one to take it to the mainstream. Biggie, Pac, Jay, Nas, and Em did it way before he did. And he wasn't the first to make concept albums either. TPAB and GKMC are both classics but they didn't take storytelling in hip-hop to a "whole new level", nor were they the first concept albums in the mainstream
