Kanye West I put this on kanyeleaks but thought I'd share on here

Started by Scottishdan, Jan 21, 2018, in Kanye West Add to Reading List

  1. SomeRandomNob
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    In almost all cases yes, but on MBDTF you can easily hear the differences even on s-----y TV speakers, because of how it's mastered/mixed. I am not sure the source of the flacs im referring to, there may be flacs out there that are just slightly higher bitrate than the mp3s, and to those flacs what you're saying applies, but there's a set of flacs going around that has very clear differences in it's mixing and or mastering.

    they call it "unmastered" but it's clearly mastered, just not to the extent that the final version is.https://mega.nz/#F!DoZVyZ7L!SrCB1h2Dd10L2LrjYFK0iA
     
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  2. Scottishdan
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    I have that version and actually its not a higher bitrate and it is only 24 bit 44.1 like most of the tidal masters... I'm only saying that CDs are being put too loud, be it the mastering or something else. I prefer vinyl or cassette than CDs for the sound.
     
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    what other way could i possibly put it to tell you that the vast, vast majority of all music since the 90s has absolutely zero difference between the quality of vinyl and cd? also, the majority of cassettes were produced on cheap to produce tapes which don't bring the format to its best, so that's actually the worst format out of the four main ones.
     
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  4. Scottishdan
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    so what's your opinion on the loudness war?
     
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  5. fluffy rabbits
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    what does that have to do with anything? how is that relevant? do you think the it's impossible to have bad sound on a vinyl? i don't mean to sound hostile or anything but it seems like you're just trying to find some kind of dirt on me and avoiding all of the points i bring up
     
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  6. Scottishdan
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    I'm just asking for your opinion on it as you said both vinyl and CD have no differences yet if that was the case there would be no loudness war that many audiophiles and producers believe is happening.

    it's relevant because it concerns CDs which is what we are taking about...
     
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  7. fluffy rabbits
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    loudness war has literally nothing to do with formats, the loudness war is tracks being mixed too high and too much gain on compression. it does not concern cds. i'd appreciate it if you could stop shifting the goalposts

    and a quick side note, audiophiles are well known in the music industry for having no idea what they're talking about
     
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  8. Scottishdan
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    but what I'm trying to get at is if its about being mixed to high and the gain pushed too much with compression then it's shows up more on CDs than on vinyl... this gives vinyl, quality wise a better more defined sound... but I'm guessing your gonna disagree with me again
     
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  9. fluffy rabbits
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    it's not a matter of opinion, i'm not disagreeing with you, i'm telling you that you are wrong. since cd has a sharper sound than vinyl, listening to a cd version of an album compared to vinyl can sound slightly more brightened. this is because that's how the producer intended for the album to be mixed, whereas vinyl might have a vaguely flatter sound, which is what you call a warm sound. this does not affect the compression levels in any way whatsoever, it only means the higher frequencies are slightly dulled.
     
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  10. Scottishdan
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    okay how about you enjoy your CDs and I'll listen to my non clipped music... sound fair?
     
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    you're absolutely delusional and in denial and i can't help you
     
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