Nov 19, 2015 m8 first of all how is being able to name EIGHTY artists better than drake, make saying that you think a 100 are better, a hyperbole? id say like if he could only think of like 20 he'd clearly be exaggerating, no? and im sure he could name more than a 100 lol. there are 100s of great rappers ive never even heard of lol. and not even in like an obscure as way...there have just been that many quality artists who've come and gone and a discussion like this, drake's popularity or hits dont really help him (and this type of comparison also isnt to take that away from him...its just to counter the unfounded praise his actually rapping gets) i think he's good. hes like cardboard to me sometimes tho. even when its super clear that he's trying to be emotive. his versatility is kind of a charade. he's not nearly as capable on the mic as people paint him to be, especially next to someone like thug, but that doesn't take away from what he can do. and songs like the ones you linked.
Nov 19, 2015 no, you didn't. you haven't made any critical arguments at all. you've just whined. if you have a case to make, make it. thug is one of the best pure rappers to ever live. he's doing things with the form no one ever has. drake stumbles around, trying and failing to bite popular styles.
Nov 19, 2015 when has drake done anything close to this throwaway feature? How the h--- that n----- leave the treasure? n----s tryna say it ain't lit up(Shut up!) You ain't have any stones in your bezels (No way..) Burn his a--- up like a sweater Have a n----- leaving on the stretcher p---- n----- know ain't no limit If you tryna get it gotta spend it YSL counting plenty digits Migo graduated from the midgets (Slime!) I'm a rolling stone n----- never going home till' the ball gone How the h--- that n----- leave the treasure when the treasure bring the bezels And the bezels worth a foreign homes?(Chee!) Who the h--- are you? You gon play with any n----- in my brew and I'ma s---t until his arm gone Thugga Thugga living that life like p---- C Got a f---ing 4 poured up in this styrofoam Lean, lean lean lean Thug a fiend Young n----- running around with thousands in his jeans Racks in a rental, bricks inside the fender Heading down the road getting trailed by lieutenants n----- gettin' real serve him gateway n----- give no wraps up, yay yay Holla at them last like feng shui Thugger taking off for the runway (sheesh!) I ain't Rick Ross but I love gunplay You can cut it off but I pull up anyway When I feed her face told me hit him in the face YSL clearing out the whole little place Make a p---- n----- turn Christian like Ma$e Gold bottles, Ace of Spades, looking like a vase I ain't talking dozens but I'm gonna beat the case I ain't talking shoes but my blunts are laced, you dig me? or anything as emotive as this: thug was doing drake better than drake when he was only 20... im not talking out of my a--- lol, thug is one of the best technical rappers alive, bar none.
Nov 19, 2015 How did I whine when you were the one bitching about me choosing "pop stars" from your list? I'm backing myself up brotha
Nov 19, 2015 Honestly you just think Thug is better than Drake and there is no way to convince you otherwise so what's the point lol have fun
Nov 19, 2015 you saying "nuh-uh" is not an argument. i brought up you limiting your post to pop stars to evidence the fact that you clearly have a very, very shallow understanding of rap music--something that probably at least partially explains your stumping for drake.
Nov 19, 2015 So you're just going to skip the fact that I put actual song examples in the beginning? Again I'm being trolled
Nov 19, 2015 @vbdubz Don't worry about it bruh. You're not the 1st & you won't be the last to have this debate with these 2. Come enjoy this Views preview. https://forum.sectioneighty.com/new-drake-song-snippet.t46926/#post-1276729
Nov 19, 2015 You keep trying to push this "shallow" narrative when all I did was name people from your list. I gave you credit for a lot of artist, had doubts for even more but would need to really dive deep to have a good discussion, and then saw the obvious ones. I pointed them out for time's sake and then you complain that I'm shallow...? Don't play yourself fool! lol
Nov 19, 2015 man i f---ing hate when people copout like this. i spent time coming up with three specific examples for you and you can't even take the time to address them. who f---ing cares if ill change my mind or not (hint: i obviously would in any scenario if i was proprerly convinced to do so). its just lazy and makes me feel like im wasting my time when i give examples to back up my point im inviting you to address them and then do the same yourself, not saying "f--- off ill never change my mind!!"
Nov 19, 2015 Fair enough, but the reason I said that specifically for Thug is because I can't legitimately compare them. They'rei in two different lanes. I listen to both for two entirely different reasons and moods. BUT if you wanna talk lyrics, then I still hold my songs higher lyrically then the songs you chose. But if you would like I can chose some other examples. ....But i'm bout to get some food so it's gonna be a brief intermission :P
Nov 19, 2015 word haha...i legitiamtely dont think you can find an example of drake flowing better than thug at his best. ive heard basically everything drakes ever done. its not gonna happen, but good luck if uw anna try as far as writing? listen to this s--- b [Intro: sample] I hear the cry of an angel I hear the scream of a man I hear the cry of an angel I hear the scream of a man Who will stand strong [Verse 1] I got London on the Track baby He might go jail for serving this crack baby Rich the Kid we in the trap baby But he might be lacking cause he'll serve all of these rappers baby I'm sitting up high, I'm in the nose bleed I got extendo under my extendo tee Momma I'm not gon let these n----s merk me I'll be d---ed if these Bloods let him hurt me I think I see some blood my baby hurt me I swear to God I’m Herby Curby working Lil mama super wet I call her squirty Like skeet skeet That p---- r-----ed, I I go the hardest, I I nutted inside with the carbon, why Why, why would you do this to me? It hurts if it don't seems I'ma block it out just by counting these knots I'm just kidding, I think not I'ma hold this weight down even though it's a lot And I'ma take off on your n----- no astronaut And I'm the motherfucking man I'm not no boy And I got a playroom if you wanna see some toys And I got extendo, look like I got two rods And I got a 6 plus look like an iPhone [Talking] My kids go by uh, Jacob, Qavion, Haydee, Hayden, Amir, Maury, and... [Verse 2] I swear to God I ain't sorry b---- I got a maid that'll watch 'em in the dark And I got some sisters that'll watch 'em like a guardian Plus I got some elders that'll watch 'em like a guard It don't matter if I leave I know my bros gon do my part, hey hey b---- come stumbling in my car I'll just terminate him then I'll leave him with a scar I can't be no hater b---- it's gambling when in Vegas I'd be busting tomatoes if I was ever gated b---- I know the business I been nominated lately I bust in her face so yeah she know that's not my baby Hey, I'ma cook them cakes no Easy Baker We got something to get so we need that tow truck stable Hey, b------s see these stars and get high Yes I'm living it up, my bed in the sky Yes I heard you're the king of the rock But when I hit it like a hit stick I make it shock, yeah Flip flop paint going down the street Minks all on my floor now that b---- look just like a sheep Help me find love, help me find love Stevie I can't see I'm a snake, you know my tail stinging and plus I'm a B I might turn you up if you get right, know I'm a thief Yeah - no Mama Dee, but I'm spitting so hard I might just lose my teeth Tree top, she a lil leaf Baby bought the Gerby Feed her lobster, Kirby I don't trust you no worry Oops I meant worthy I know it's kinda hard to get these Words I'm saying, I'm steady praying, amen Please forgive me for my sins, please twin I don't wanna be departed from you, you me and You know I'm you Hundred miles an hour you control the coupe Thank you for giving me these golds no flute Please make 'em understand that I ain't no fruit Please make 'em understand I only f--- coochie Please forgive me for my sins Please please please forgive me All I wanna do is win I don't write so I don't want the pen I promise I'm in love with my kids I'm thankful for everything I get Lord knows that I take care of my kids I promise I hope it never ends [Outro: Sample] I hear the cry of an angel I hear the scream of a man people just arent that familiar w his discog m8
Nov 19, 2015 why would you do this to me? It hurts if it don't seems man that s--- almost made me shed a tear first time i heard it
Nov 19, 2015 My kids go by uh, Jacob, Qavion, Haydee, Hayden, Amir, Maury, and... I swear to God I ain't sorry b---- I got a maid that'll watch 'em in the dark And I got some sisters that'll watch 'em like a guardian Plus I got some elders that'll watch 'em like a guard It don't matter if I leave I know my bros gon do my part, hey hey
Nov 19, 2015 @Narsh Cool s---, but I think Drake got it on this one. At this point it's cliche referencing any of his songs since they all blow up but f--- it [Verse 2:] Uh, And life is so insane, look what I've became, tryna make a name All my first dates are interrupted by my fame Because every picture taken is a fan that you can gain They love it when you smile unaware that it's a strain It's a curse you gotta live with when you born to entertain Women need attention therefore women will complain Develop hatred for men and say that your the one to blame Tryna enjoy myself with Taz in miami at the game I just wish he knew how much it really weighed like dwayne It's a weight that's on my chest whoever spottin' me is playin' So I'm liftin' all alone try not to get a sprain Hopin' western union doing currency exchange Cause my dad called and got me feelin' guilty and ashamed Like, how I had a Rolls and I went and got a Range And he payin' for his cigarettes with dollars and some change d---, and I could only feel his pain Cause in memphis tennessee there's only so much to attain So I'm fillin' out the form at the counter once a-gain He say he love me I just hope he doesn't say that s--- in vain I'm why yo girl heart is in a slang Call me heartbreak Drake I'm the hardest one to tame As a man I'm just honest as a artist I'm a king With my own set of problems that be sittin' on my brain Yea, And see this is the thang What they viewing as braggin' is the way that I maintain The s--- I write while staring out the window of a plane Is the single handed reason I Remain...