Eminem Jay-z vs Eminem - Renegade

Started by Pablo, Apr 25, 2016, in Eminem Add to Reading List

Who have the best verses ?

  1. Eminem

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  2. Jay-Z

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  1. Pablo
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    Pablo Dragon Z-azou

    Apr 25, 2016
    which verses do you like the most in this song? Jay's ones or Eminem's ones?
    This question could seem stupid since so much people consider Eminem superior in this track that the expression "He has been renegaded" became a thing.
    Plus Nas said in "Ether" : "Eminem murdered you on your own s---" to Jay-Z.
    But i'm pretty sure some people on this forum don't think that way, and Jay's verse is also considered legendary by some : "Do you fools listen to music or do you just skim through it?"
    (Oh and i didn't put that thread in the Eminem section because the results would have been biaised)
     
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  2. Michael Myers
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    Apr 25, 2016
    Eminems flow >

    But actual verses I would say Jay.
     
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  3. Dking002
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    Apr 25, 2016
    Eminem easily. Jigga verses are really boring
     
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  4. DKC
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    DKC hank trill

    Apr 25, 2016
    I understand prefering Em on this song, but there's no way Jay's second verse is boring:

    I had to hustle, my back to the wall, ashy knuckles
    Pockets filled with a lot of lint, not a cent
    Gotta vent, lot of innocent lives lost on the project bench
    Whatchu hollering, gotta pay rent, bring dollars in
    By the bodega, iron under my coat, feeling braver
    Durag wrapping my waves up, pockets full of hope
    Do not step to me, I'm awkward, I box lefty
    An orphan my pops left me, and often, my momma wasn't home
    Could not stress to me I wasn't grown, especially on nights
    I brought something home to quiet the stomach rumblings
    My demeanor, thirty years my senior
    My childhood didn't mean much, only raising green up
    Raising my fingers to critics
    Raising my head to the sky B.I.G. I did it, multi before I die
    No lie, just know I chose my own fate
    I drove by the fork in the road and went straight
     
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    Apr 25, 2016
    yeah and loads of people have been through much worst I bet. Not that interesting especially compare to what Em is saying
     
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  6. Flacko
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    Flacko Too Blessed To Be Humble

    Apr 25, 2016
    Eminem but not by a lot.

    This wasn't even being discussed til Nas mentioned it lol.
     
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  7. Narsh
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    Apr 25, 2016
    what an incredible verse
     
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  8. Narsh
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    Apr 25, 2016
    lmfao ur a r-----
     
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    boyz n the suburbs In my city, I'm a young God

    Apr 25, 2016
    Jay Z because of that second verse :banderas:

    And before some r----- comes along and goes "LOL ur such a closet stan and know emuhnim is better!" (A post that Trivio will like because he's a b----) I love Em's first verse but Jay is overall better imo
    I have no idea how he's "boring" either wtf
     
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    Apr 25, 2016
    Royce Da 5'9"
     
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    Apr 25, 2016
    See, I'm a poet to some, a regular modern day Shakespeare
    Jesus Christ the King of these Latter Day Saints here
    To shatter the picture in which of that as they paint me
    as a monger of hate, Satan and scatter-brained atheist
    But that ain't the case, see, it's a matter of taste
    We as a people decide if Shady's as bad as they say he is
    Or is he the ladder, a gateway to escape?
    Media scapegoat, they can be mad at today
    See, it's as easy as cake, simple as whistling Dixie
    while I'm waving the pistol at sixty Christians against me
    Go to war with the Mormons, take a bath with the Catholics
    in holy water no wonder they try to hold me under longer
    I'm a motherfucking spiteful, delightful eyeful
    The new Ice Cube, MFers hate to like you
    What did I do? (huh) I'm just a kid from the gutter
    making his butter off these bloodsuckers, cause I'm a motherfucking

    Still can't decide which verse I like better though
     
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  12. Poohdini
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    Apr 25, 2016
    Jigga but it's close.
     
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    Apr 25, 2016
    Jay z is my favorite rapper of all time but its common knowledge that Em got him on this song
     
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    Apr 25, 2016
    This thread again :travlaff:
     
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    mow long live flippa

    Apr 25, 2016
    Both are great, i prefer Eminem though. I wish they had done more songs together
     
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    mow long live flippa

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    Apr 25, 2016
    most underrated lines of a song ever
     
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    Apr 25, 2016
    Ems verses sound pretty but jays verses are so densely packed with substance. Em got renegaded
     
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