Eminem Medicine Man is a terrible song and the worst on Compton.

Started by Lucy, Sep 11, 2017, in Eminem Add to Reading List

does Eminem sound s--- on Medicine Man

  1. yes

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  2. i am tone deaf

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  1. Cyreides
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  2. Dread or Alive
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    Eminem has never met his father. the metaphor is perfect .
     
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    Sep 11, 2017
    every debate Vybz gets in just devolves into him sharing the most dry facts about Eminem like its super serious
     
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    d---
     
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  5. Lucy
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    Sep 11, 2017
    no it's dumb as f---.

    i remember reading he has, they went for lunch. though can't find any articles or anything on it, even though i specifically remember reading it and seeing a pic of his dad and i'm not a stan, so i wouldn't lie about it.
     
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  6. Lucy
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    like the c---- is in his 40's still thinking up metaphors for his dad leaving him. now do you understand why its' f---ing gay? lol
     
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  8. Dread or Alive
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    Dread or Alive Kamikaze should've been released 3 years ago

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    He said "Michelangelo with a paint gun in a tantrum", that's a perfect comparison, given that in the beginning his music came from his hatred of the world and it's violent narratives are what made him famous. Also, if you think being anti-social can prevent someone from being an artist, then you aren't qualified to even speak about art.
    Who cares if it's funny. Em's musical career skyrocketed because of his violent narratives. Him crashing into rap created a violently imaginative masterpiece. Yeah it might be exaggeration but f---ing h--- what's the point of art without any grandeur. You aren't giving any real arguments here.
     
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  9. Dread or Alive
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    Why?
    The metaphor suggests that father as a concept is non-existent to him.
    Well i listened to the f---ing song and it's literally about him getting over his dad issues. If you don't listen to the f---ing song and you don't know s--- about Eminem don't come telling me what you think the metaphors mean or your opinions on it. f--- whatever you think your taste in music is. Your understanding of literature is lacking. Take a class.
     
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  10. Dread or Alive
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    Entry level stan trivia. Em doesn't even talk about his dad much because it hardly ever crosses his mind. That's partially why you hear so much about his mom.
     
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  11. Lucy
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    didn't say that. comparing a junkie anti-social r----- to Michaelangelo is r-----ed. Regardless of the art they create.

    it's not perfect because Eminem is not liked by the community at large, he doesn't speak to people in the streets, he barely does s--- for charity and he's a recluse. Michaelangelo was loved by the people and looked at like a messenger of God for creating his work. as in like, all people. not just a fringe minority of rap fans that like him.
    I was being sarcastic, it's a s--- line. it's cringeworthy, to say the least. He's relating his shock value appeal, to that of handing a loaded gun to a psycho. it's just lame and corny.

    "him crashing into rap"
    what do you mean? speak normally. His unexpected rise to fame? he didn't just rap and all of a sudden get famous, he was pushed by Dre for years. Perhaps a better metaphor would be he crashed his motorcycle into Dre's f---ing banana boat or some stupid s--- and Dre medicine man doctored him to be a better rapper or some equally cringe s---.

    "you aren't giving any real arguments here"
    Again, why is a grown man in his 40's "getting over his dad" ?? it's stupid forced content from an artist with nothing more to rap about. and if you want to get overly defensive about this, you are a jamican, a third world citizen and first world raps aren't something you should speak on because your understanding of what is socially acceptable in the first world is lacking. Take a bath.


    pot calling kettle black?
    down syndrome calling the disabled person r-----ed?
     
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  12. deluxe wife
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    Sep 11, 2017
    MMLP2 has some flows that I think are better than all of Recovery's. weirdly though most of them are the bonus tracks?
    last verse of Bad Guy
    Rhyme or Reason
    Brainless
    Evil Twin
    Baby
    Desperation
    Groundhog Day
    Wicked Ways

    a lot of good quality flows to be found here. not as effortless sounding as TES or something, but more creative imo than much of Recovery.

    then Shady XV happened and he started doing the weird listing objects thing and choppy rambly contrived flows (DvE, Shady XV, Right For Me). but Vegas and Fine Line had really good flows still.

    Medicine Man falls somewhere below the best songs in MMLP2. it'd be good to above-average on that album, but coming in the wake of XV made it sound a lot greater.

    Best Friend is probably the better post-MMLP2 feature. but Medicine Man had more bite to it so I was drawn to it more, but I think I have revisited it less.
     
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  13. Lucy
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    well that makes sense, I could see people getting excited for it if it didn't sound as bad as his last 3 s-----y songs or whatever.
     
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  14. Lucy
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    but it's still just "good to above-average" when compared to s--- lol
     
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    Why? I get the feeling that you are missing the point of a metaphor. Hyperbole is a good thing.
    Stop you there. You are a f---ing idiot if you think the rap community at large doesn't like Eminem. Even WPG likes SSLP.
    He doesn't speak to "people in the streets". He speaks to people. Also, f--- whatever you think "the streets" means, because Em's narrative is very much one of an impoverished childhood. Trailer Park Junkie isn't exactly middle class is it? It just isn't based on black culture.
    He's actually not a recluse lol. But funny how you are using Eminem in 2017 when Eminem was specifically talking about the himself at the start of his career.

    Nope. The shock value comes after the gun is fired, the loaded gun is Rap music and it's popularity.
    You are entitled to your opinion. But i'm not sure how rap music being a loaded gun comes off as lame? Who the f--- are you listening to? You gave me "speaking to the streets" as an anecdote when most of the rappers that do have a song's worth on content over their entire career. Just reworded differently. Given that most rap lines aren't even metaphors at all, you must be f---ing bored at the state of current rap.


    1998: signs for interscope
    1999: SSLP drops

    Dre only heard of Eminem after hearing SSEP which was released in 1997.
    So at best 2 years between Dre knowing who the f--- Eminem is, and him releasing SSLP which is first studio album.


    Yeah go listen to the song or f--- off to be honest. Also the album is about introspection and Karma. Which is why he also has a song to his mom telling her sorry for years of, well, Eminem music.

    Well s---. Tell me a Kendrick Lamar album that isn't about Compton. Take FUTURE and HNDRXX and tell me ANY album that's even remotely different in Future's entire discography content wise. Take your time. Also, it's not forced content, the theme of the album is actually Karma and introspection. Name another Eminem album that's in anyway thematically similar content wise.
     
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    Yikes @ op
     
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  17. Lucy
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    i read this far, not going to continue reading. I said community. not rap community. rap communities didn't exist in High Renaissance times.

    read my posts properly and stop being blinded by your rage. take a breather and get back to me man
     
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  18. Lucy
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    not an argument
     
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    Ignoring eminem I also think Dre sounds f---ing s--- (and not like himself) on that song.

    I dont mind eminems first part of the verse at all but that is for modern day eminem standards.

    Song itself indeed bottom 3 for me, album is f---ing great to me.
     
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  20. Dread or Alive
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    I'm not reporting you, because i don't think you intended me to feel so badly about that, but that was kinda harsh. I always wished Jamaica wasn't so third world. Don't rub it in.
     
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