Jul 17, 2017 i mean i didnt say that okay? in 20 years you'll be in a retirement home and you won't be able to remember 20 years ago try to make the most of your twilight years rather than stressing about how rappers flow fam its not that deep
Jul 17, 2017 just stay out of the discussion. a straight edge hyper-liberal white knight cuck lord like yourself has no place defending trap music
Jul 17, 2017 eh too broad of a statement to make there are still an abundance of "lyrical" rappers out today the highest selling rap album this year is hailed as the most lyrical dude out i get what you're saying lyrics have taken a back seat to a melodic, flow orientated style in the mainstream im not refuting that but what trackz is saying that the music is "for people who dont care about lyrics" is skraight lies
Jul 17, 2017 again with this tired a--- line pretending the only reason anyone could ever possibly call certain trap music 'mumble rap' is simply because they can't understand what they're saying, as if what their slow a--- garbled generic lyrics are so hard to digest or something... is just bs and not true :S
Jul 17, 2017 lol ive posted in here 3 times, stop insinuating this topic bothering me or stressing me in any way. What did you mean you didn't say that??
Jul 17, 2017 you quoted me as saying its "pushing the culture forward" that is just fabricated or i guess you're totally misunderstanding my point
Jul 17, 2017 Singing and rapping are not equals. We don't critique the two the same at all. You don't have to have an elequent voice to be a good or great rapper. You can have a harsh gritty voice like ghostface or a soft/harmonizing voice like drake -- it doesn't matter. It's an apples and oranges comparison. Hip-hop has always been a genre that's imbedded in slang/terminology/accents etc. if you can't get into a certain type of music because of their vocals -- that's fine, don't turn around and trash an entire sub-genre because of your preference though. As for Eminem, it's not the same at all. His accent on relapse was forced and just sounded bad. It didn't come naturally at all. Unlike his nasally voice from earlier in his career which did come off well and unique. Since when do trap artists rap off beat? I think rapping off beat is one of the biggest turn offs in hip-hop music. If you have no sense of flow/rhythm, it's likely not going to sound good.
Jul 17, 2017 yes... of flow and cadence. that is what i said lol that has nothing to do with "the culture" im saying what you geriatrics refer to as "mumbling" is pushing the boundaries of the traditional sound of hip hop thru the use of different flows and delivery do i have to spell it out for you anymore or what
Jul 17, 2017 You realize pushing the boundaries of flow and cadence affects the culture of hip hop/Rap, right?
Jul 17, 2017 sure but in the mainstream right now, how many are popular compared to how many non "lyrical" rappers? there's quite a staggering difference in terms of who's getting more attention, and u can rly tell when you look at trends on here for instance (anecdotal af tho) i mean, generally when i see people put on something that could classify as "mumble rap" or trap or whatever, it's not typically because of the super in-depth thought provoking lyrics it brings, but more cause they happened to like the sound of it and/or it was catchy ik (despite liking HNDRXX quite a lot, and Culture a fair amount, among other trap isht that could fit under the term) I don't exactly listen for the lyrical content lmao. it's not really there
Jul 17, 2017 @Trackz cuner is a r----- c---- that does s--- like this all the time, don't give him the time of day you did you dirty f---ing liar, i highlighted it green, maybe the words you were trying to say was "oh i understand how you came to that conclusion, @Trackz. but actually i don't punctuate my posts ever so nobody can truly understand the point i'm trying to make" but this just was never said and you're embarrassing yourself. stop.
Jul 17, 2017 sure i mean i agree w/ everything you're saying and i addressed that in the post u quoted popular rap music is definitely going in a more melodic, flow orientated direction. the implication i have a problem with is that trackz is saying people don't care about lyrics anymore or this music is for people that dont care about lyrics. im a huge lyric person but im also a big fan of the "mumble rap" scene or w.e we want to call it. hip hop is just branching off and evolving organically like any great genre would. lyrical rap isn't going anywhere there's no shortage of "lyrical rappers" out trap is just hugely popular/mainstream at the moment i mean its party music it's not meant to be deep and thought provoking most popular music isn't
Jul 17, 2017 you realise doing anything inside of hip hop affects the culture right? whats your point, obviously they're "affecting the culture" so what
Jul 17, 2017 lol, you got butt hurt when I said pushing the culture instead of pushing the boundaries because you didn't say it that way. And now you're agreeing with me. That's my point.
Jul 17, 2017 lol man this is just going in circles im not trying to argue this anymore but just know you're wrong like off top young thug, 2chainz, future are some of the most interesting writers in rap right now as far as being funny, original, candid, quotable and they all fall heavily into the "mumble rap" umbrella anyways its fine if you dont like the music do you but ur just wrong about this anyways bye
