- Thread: WTF Dre
- Thread: THE BABYFACE DON
so I was gonna actually save this till the top of 2017 but..surprises are fun. hope you guys enjoy my baby.."The Babyface Don"
..and not modeling, you silly goose. YES - now you can read it for the articles heh.
Big props to @WPG for the huge assist here. He's a very nice young man. I would love it if some of you would send this to your friends:
This piece is a look at Obama's relationship with the rap world over the past year or so, particularly in the advent of Donald Trump. Let me know your thoughts, pals. I like and respect you all.
It's easy to name a handful of albums off the top of your head when discussing favorites, but until now I'd never really sat down and tried to discern an ordered list. Obviously lists like this can change pretty frequently as albums age poorly and tastes change, but I'm pretty confident in it at this point in time. Some of these probably will never leave my list, but if I'm being real, I wouldn't trust someone if they felt their ranking was concrete and forever -- it shows they aren't open to new music and don't have any interest in checking out older stuff they may have missed.
Anyway, this is purely subjective: ie, I'm not trying to discern which rap albums are the best, simply which ones are my absolute favorites (though clearly I think all of these are classic, or at the very least extremely good). I'm not gonna load it with safe 90s classics I like just because they're timeless, though obviously there are lots of great albums from that time period. I think everyone knows that "feeling" you get when you hear an album and you're certain you're going to love it forever, whether it was on the first listen or it took you a few before you "got it." That's what I'm talking about here.
A few things you should know about the list:
1. For the sake of diversity, the only rule I used when making it is that an artist can only appear once.
2. Hint: there are four albums from the 90s, one from the 2000s, and five from the 2010s. I'm probably a little biased toward the 90s and 2010s because I was a dusthead in the 2000s and didn't start really paying attention to new music like I do now until the 2010s. Make some guesses if you'd like!
3. I'm just trying to have fun with this, so these write-ups are more informal, off-the-dome blurbs of #mythoughts (shouts out @Narsh).
Like OP or tag me if you want to be mentioned when I update. I'm gonna try to do three or so every day so I don't drag this out too long.
10. Future - Monster (2014)
Full disclosure: for how much I love Future now, I was late as f--k to the game. I'd tried listening to Dirty Sprite back in 2012 after he made the XXL Freshman list and couldn't get into him other than the titular track. Pluto and Honest didn't do much for me either when they dropped (I love them now though), and it wasn't until I heard Monster that I really 'got' Future. From the moment I heard that low growl on "Radical" and heard him say "Cowboy hat on me I went blonde cause I'm bougie/matter fact nigga I got St. Laurent groupies" I was sold.
When you're new Future's delivery and this style of production, it's hard to take in everything he says unless you're listening closely. For that reason, it took me a few spins to get past my immersion in the production and delivery and realize just how depressing this album is. For every "f--k Up Some Commas" there's a "Throw Away" and a "Hardly." Even songs like "Showed Up" that feel like pure braggadocio upon first listen are cries for help ("I was drugged up on so many drugs"). Released just six months apart, Monster is the come down from Honest. Both albums boast a smattering of infectious hooks, but the delayed sense of distraught and sadness is what makes Monster special in my eyes. The melodies get stuck in your head before you even realize what he's saying, and before you know it you can't go a day without thinking "I just downed a whole eighth of codeine...fixin' up the molly with the Spirte like it's protein." Even if you can't relate to why he's feeling what he's feeling, you can relate to what he's feeling. It's that ability to transfer emotion that I love.
Also, "Codeine Crazy." I think that speaks for itself. "I'm an addict and I can't even hide it."
9. Big Boi - Sir Lucious Leftfoot: The Son of Chico Dusty (2010)
I’m one of the seemingly few people who would put Big Boi above Andre, and that’s nothing against 3K. I’d never argue that putting him above Big Boi is a bad choice, but for me, Big’s post-Stankonia solo output (that includes Speakerboxxx, as I view Stankonia as the last true Outkast album) seals the deal. Though Big Grams and Vicious Lies & Dangerous Rumors don’t have nearly as high of a success rate as Chico Dusty (or even Speakerboxxx), they’re decent albums in their own right. I’m not so much of a fan of The Love Below, but to be fair, the last time I heard it was in 2014 when I was gearing up to see them at Sasquatch, so I should probably give it another chance.
As for the album itself: I don’t listen to it nearly as much as I used to, but there was a point in time where I honestly preferred it over and listened to it more than MBDTF…I think that’s partially because the girl I was dating at the time hated Kanye and this was one of the few rap albums she liked as much as me (not liking Kanye was an easy sign we should have broken up earlier, but I was 19 and dumb. Side note: sometimes when she would ask me questions I would answer “cuz I’m just a Chi-town cracker with a nice flow” to piss her off).
There are a lot of guests on Chico Dusty, but what I love is that he utilizes them to build an aesthetic rather than going the Game route and phoning them in to take up space and boost sales. Sleepy Brown and Big Rube are on here of course. George Clinton is on here. T.I. is on here. Too $hort stops by for four bars just because he can a la Rick Ross on “Monster.” “Shine Blockas" is one of the most fun songs ever. I love the Gucci verse (“They put Gucci in a cell then Madea went to jail/I make music, I make movies, I need Tyler Perry sales”) and I love even more that he’s not in the music video because he was in jail so they just spliced in translucent images of him during his verse. Even Yelawolf and B.o.B. hold their own (the latter of whom seemed really promising at the time, despite somewhat of a lackluster debut). For the most part, the guests seem like natural and necessary pieces of the song, and it really proves Big Boi’s ability to craft a consistent and holistic album. He’s not working with people just to work with them, he’s working with them for the greater good of the sound.
Bonus: it spawned this wonderful Black Keys mashup:
8. UGK - Ridin’ Dirty (1996)
Despite this being widely considered UGK’s best album and one of the best southern rap albums of all time, I was a little late to the game on this one as well. It’s funny because back when I was still stanning Eminem I was bumping Super Tight and Underground Kingz, but I guess being fairly removed from the overall hip-hop canon comes with the territory of listening to Eminem a lot.
It’s absolutely baffling to me that people discredited the south for so long (and still do) when you had albums like this and ATLiens coming out in the same year (especially with an opener like “One Day”). It’s not even as if Ridin’ Dirty is particularly weird. In terms of samples, it flips most of rap’s mainstays — soul, funk, jazz, disco (and funnily enough, Pink Floyd). It’s almost as if it took sparse, gritty drums that characterized a lot of New York rap in the 1990s and blended it with the G-Funk sound that was coming out of California. For that reason, it’s an album I feel like I can put on almost anytime: it’s soulful enough for a sunny day, hard-hitting and catchy enough for background music at a low-key party, and thoughtful enough for when I’m feeling introspective.
Also, Pimp C is the only person named Chad whose cocaine numbers I would believe.Last edited: Apr 23, 2016
I know it's called Compton but this is still Detox... that's besides the point though. The fact of the matter is that this is an EVENT and it warrants an M Solo thread. From here on out I'll be posting all of my thoughts, observations and reactions in this thread. Now you won't have to sift through shit posts from little fakket simps like @Cain to see what I'm thinking.
I'm still debating how/when I will be listening to this. I'll be to busy watching Trump going HAM tomorrow night to catch the stream but there's a small chance I may hold out until Sunday. I know I have otherworldly discipline but that will be TOUGH. However, if I can do that it'll be an incredibly special experience. We'll see.
I've been discussing this album with some of you guys for over a decade and now we're just 24 hours away. It's incredibly surreal and I can't wait to share this experience with all of you.
Oh yeah. I always said I was done posting when/if Detox dropped. This could end up being a really special thread.Last edited: Aug 5, 2015
Ladies and gentlemen,
first and foremost: thank you all for participating in the 1st SXN80 Rap Awards. Activity-wise, this was a huge success: hundreds of votes have been casted and around 1,500 posts have been written. Those are huge, impressive numbers. That would have never happened without you guys.
Anyway, let’s go on to most important part: the winners
2nd Place: Black Friday by J Cole and Kendrick Lamar
3rd Place: Drake & Meek Mill Beef
2nd Place: Phenomenal (Eminem)
3rd Place: L$D (A$AP Rocky)
2nd Place: Kendrick Lamar & J Cole - TBA
3rd Place: Kanye West - Swish
2nd Place: Hotline Bling (Drake)
3rd Place: March Madness (Future)
2nd Place: D12 (Devil’s Night Mixtape)
3rd Place: Kid Cudi ((Speedin' Bullet To Heaven)
2nd Place: Eminem | Medicine Man
3rd Place: Young Thug | I Know There’s Gonna Be (Good Times)
2nd Place: Compton (Dr. Dre)
3rd Place: Summertime ’06 (Vince Staples)
2nd Place: Young Thug
3rd Place: Future
All past polls are public now, check them out in the Rap Awards Section. Since there’s no way to instantly close polls( which is why you can theoretically still change your vote) the poll results might change. The results of when I created prepared this count.
Feel free to comment which results made you happy/unhappy and which ones surprised you. Furthermore, any feedback (did you like the Rap Awards?, suggestions, etc.) is appreciated.
Big shoutout to @Loyalty for working with me together on the banners, he was a huge help.
And shoutout to everyone who is either pleased or dissatisfied with the results of the SXN80 Rap Awards; just keep in mind that there will always be…
@dester23 @Narsh @shahidah @Jaba24 @Charlie Strangelove @Mowkki @ANOZ
@Mikey1990 @Sith Lord @Jehovah @Winter @Squid @Him Shadow @Mathias @CSA
@MTY @Luke @Astro @Maximus @sindy @Changeling @Deadpool @WPG @GawDEDEDE
@yippekiyay @Loyalty @Bleed @Fire Squad @Mike Tyson @Ordinary Joel @Rick James @PoshP
@Cyreides @Immy @Ghostface @Machiavelli @Tripstarr @Besky @KMA @Radeem
@Revolutionary @tehparadox @GroovySlim @zazou @trivio @DMX @Enigma
@Boyz N The Suburbs @Topdawg @Meero @Tripstarr @Jaba24 @Mike Tyson
@Jakey @Cj Hall @YiT @joeyp363 @SwagKingCole @Poohdini @Anonymous Guy
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- Thread: Section Eighty Won
shout out to @Kold for noticing this
Take a peak around, we still got some work to do on this joint but what you see is close to the final product. Salute to @Akaash and @ODB for the multiple hours of work they put in to this to get it to where it is right now. @Wiz KaShiva been working on the social networks right now, and that'll put the site over the top.
I know a lot of people were expecting a music blog, and the original plan was to open as one, but ODB helped shift the site to a culture blog off the bat. It was always in the plan to go that way when I picked the name ‘Section Eighty’ for this site, but I thought we’d be over extending ourselves if we did that off launch. Still, if this joint is going to succeed or flop, I wouldn’t do it with any other team than the people who came over from JCN with me.
Music: new singles, news, interviews
Sports: highlight plays, news, opinion pieces
Culture: weird news, video games, movies, TV and everything else
Reviews: music reviews
To all the people who reached out about getting involved, I'll be hitting you shortly with some info. If you're someone who would like to get involved (post news, or type up feature articles) just identify which area you could add in and hit me, @ODB or @Akaash with a PM.
Thanks to Poly for everything. Also thanks to Slyk for helping me try to figure out the technical issues we experienced when trying to launch this.
www.sectioneighty.comLast edited: Jan 11, 2015
This is still a work in progress, but welcome to the new blog!
For those who didn't know, the last blog ultimately failed due to the sheer amount of content we tried to take on. It's impossible for a few people to maintain a "blog" in the traditional sense (though shouts out to @Flacko / @ODB / @Mike Tyson / @Slyk for their effort with that last time, holy shit) where we post every tidbit of news and hope it makes it to the front page of r/HHH. Though we saw a decent amount of success quickly, we simply didn't have the money or resources to keep it up. We're gonna take this more slowly this time and focus on longform for the time being. That is: reviews, interviews, think-pieces, etc. I'll be focusing on rap for this reason, though we are hoping to expand to all music, sports, tv, film, general culture, etc. Shoot me a PM if you're interested in writing/submitting something in any of those departments.
I will be handling the writing/editing/publishing portion of the site. @Mike Tyson and @ODB will be in charge of graphics/social media/design/etc.
Shouts out to @Charlie Strangelove for coming up with the name.
Shouts out to @Soldier, @Mike Tyson, @Blaza, @Big Mitch, @Charlie Strangelove, @Flacko, @THCLUTCH, @Skippy, @Slyk, @Nay Nay, @Changeling, @Dew, and @Skippy for helping nominate and construct the list. Huge thanks to Blaza, Has, Mitch, Changeling, and THCLUTCH for helping write the blurbs. I promise I'll be a real editor and give actual feedback next time
Shouts out to @threee for being the only other editor and for his awful australian versions of words like "litre" and "sombre."
Shouts out to @Narsh here's your articles you f--k (and on Beast Mode's anniversary no less). But seriously thanks for letting us rehost them. I will have Only One up soon, I just prioritized things that were on the list.
Shouts out to @captain awesome for also letting me republish his old articles. Republishing everything will be a WIP over the next week or so.
Anyway, this list is already really late, but we figured it would be a good piece to start things off. Let's get some discussion going.
Last edited: Jan 17, 2016
whole staff is very proud of this. it's important work.
- Thread: DMX not breathing, no pulse
The Eminem Show is by far the best rap album since 2003...nothing came close...today i made it a job to listen to it..then to MBDTF..then GKMC...TES is much better...its ridiculous how polished that album is..the story telling..the music..the emotion....its f--king perfection
if you think MBDTF is better...your either @Brubbels or only thinking that based on memories..go back and listen to TES
serious talk...its the perfect rap album...if it was a man i would swallow its juice
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“That's a pretty f--king fast year flew by” and within that “year” Jay-Z and Kanye West became fathers, Dr. Dre and D’Angelo both released albums, and J. Cole went platinum without any features. Then it happened. Four years of insurmountable hype was met with four promotional tools: A library card, woodshop 101, Nikes, and a magazine.
On Blonde, when the untouched vocals on Nikes finally come into fruition it’s as if Frank never left. Those 4 years of near silence melt away. You forget about when he said he had #two versions #july 2015 #album 3. You forget the fact that you waited all day Thursday for him to finish painting those boxes only for him to leave for week. You forget that Time magazine lied to you. You’re right back to a particular moment. Whether it is at that very moment you finished channel ORANGE, or when you heard your first Beatles song. Whatever. It’s an album hell bent on nostalgia more than Frank’s release from 2011 that actually has it in its title.
Blonde is a combination of the old and the new. Pink + White is the Frank you’ve come to love since his emergence with Odd Future. Self Control seems vaguely familiar, but you can’t put your finger on it. It should amaze you that a song like Pretty Sweet that utilizes a children’s choir can coexist on album that has Yung Lean backing vocals.
Nights, copies the formula of Pyramids and the rhythmic change happens exactly in the middle of the runtime. Before the shift in tone within Nights, Frank uses his vocals in optimistic tone. Here’s a guy that has everything in life to look forward too and even with warnings from his beloved mother he intends to experience everything life has to offer.
“After 20 years in
I’m so naive I was under the impression that everyone wrote they own verses
It’s comin’ back different and yea that shit hurts me
I’m hummin’ and whistlin’ to those not deserving
I’m stumbled and lift every word, was I working just way too hard?”
The second half of Blonde is a reflection on everything that shaped Frank. It’s a lot more pessimistic. White Ferrari is the perfect song that puts you on that road of reflection. If you were to ask me how long the song was, I would have answered at least 7 minutes. To my surprise Ferrari clocks in at only 4:09. At one point in his career the road was running out, now it seems the road will not stop. It’s the epitome of longing and this is what that longing sounds like.
On Seigfried, when the final falsetto hits, it hits hard. The vocals trail off and you’re left wondering about that person that he would do anything for, but then Godspeed comes in sporting the optimism found on the first side of the album. Frank sounds content about how everything turned out in the end.
Futura Free, perhaps the most revealing track blends together Frank’s ocean past memories with his little brother’s bright optimistic future that he possessed in the first half of the album.
“Tyler slept on my sofa yeah.”
As a listener, you’re happy. You remember the come up leading to the mystery that would later be Frank Ocean, but it’s over. He’s the same guy that would Freestyle with Tyler and Earl in 480p youtube videos. It’s the reason why Frank and The Weeknd’s careers went so retrograde. Frank will always be the guy that gets it. The guy that gets YOU. Blonde will be the album that you will remember during the most trying and happiest times in your life. Frank does not end the album with his voice. He ends with his brother, Ryan Breaux. The album is not for Frank. It’s his gift to us and that’s why you don’t care that it took 4 years to make because you’re too busy remembering everything that this album reminds you of.Last edited: Sep 5, 2016
- Thread: Swizz Reviews Recovery
Earlier @Immy suggested that I should write a new review of Recovery and I decided that I wasn't afraid to take a stand, everybody come take my hand.
Please note that I have not written a review in years and I am not as seasoned as our true professionals (@WPG and @captain awesome) but I hope you enjoy my thoughts anyway.
One of the must stunning things about prime Eminem was just how effortless he seemed. His technical ability and lyrical consistency was so impressive it seemed that he could have churned out classics in his sleep. As it turns out, this was not a correct assumption. In 2004, Eminem essentially DID make an album in his sleep, the rambling, incoherent, stunningly misguided Encore. Encore’s release, marking the artistic decline of someone who just two short years earlier had seemed unstoppable, somehow guaranteed that the reelection of George W. Bush was only the second most depressing thing to happen in November 2004. It slid into the pop cultural ether like the sort of wet turd he probably would have rapped about in a hypothetical fourth verse of Just Lose It, and it marked an album-to-album plummet in quality rarely matched in hip-hop history.
His long-awaited return came in 2009 with the confounding, even more misguided Relapse, an album that was nearly as bad as Encore for entirely different reasons. You could probably write a novel on what went wrong on Relapse and what was going on in his head when he decide to adopt the persona of a serial killer with a middle eastern accent, but please, don't bother doing that. The bottom line is, fans diagnosed the problems pretty quickly. The content needs more depth. The production and features need variety. And that accent has got to go. These were near-unanimous solutions. Eminem heard the voice of his fans and critics and adjusted accordingly.
Good, right? Wrong. Recovery, Marshall’s 2010 attempt at artistic redemption, is a textbook lesson in overcorrection. Improve the content? Check; self-serious attempts at concept tracks should do the trick. Fix the delivery? Check; maybe the way to show a bit of emotion would be to SHOUT THIS AT THE TOP OF MY LUNGS. Enlist some outside help? Check; let’s bring in Pink, everyone’s idea of an inspiring creative muse, to spice things up a bit.
Recovery is dead on arrival not necessarily because he veered in a different direction (indeed, this was probably necessary; the planned sequel Relapse 2 would have likely been an unmitigated disaster), but because he’s trying so hard. On song after song, you can see his wheels spinning furiously to almost no effect. Perhaps the most glaring example is Won’t Back Down, a proud contender for worst Eminem song of all time (over the years this has become an increasingly crowded field). The backdrop is an abrasive, video-game ready DJ Khalil attempt at rock music for people who don’t listen to rock music but occasionally like the guitar riffs they hear in monster truck rally commercials. As that screeches in the background, Marshall drops clunker after clunker in attempts at clever wordplay: “f--k a steak, I’ll cut my toes and step on the receipt ‘fore I foot the bill!” and “I gave Bruce Wayne a valium and said ‘Settle your f--king ass down, I’m ready for combat, man!’ Get it, *calm Batman*?” are just the first minute or so of the song. Each line is delivered in an ugly, full-throated roar, and the lyricism encompasses such topics as a) how dope Eminem is at rapping (“I’m an uncooked slab of beef laying on your kitchen floor, in other words I’m off the meat rack” – that’s how raw he is, you see); b) how large his penis is (“f--k, my d-ck’s big”; further context not considered necessary); and c) how wacky and unpredictable Slim Shady is (“Fork was in the road, took the psycho path!”).
Similarly disastrous is Not Afraid, the inspirational anthem for janitors everywhere who feel a commanding jolt of rage every time they remember that Mom recently started asking for rent money. Not Afraid resonated with fans in its initial release because it felt like a direct response to their grievances, including an explicit admission of error regarding the quality of Relapse. But upon closer inspection, Not Afraid is a deeply embarrassing song – a manufactured attempt at an inspirational stadium-ready anthem, with a seemingly endless stream of poorly written barbs directed at nameless haters (all of whom, Marshall asserts, "can make like bees with no stingas and drop dead"). Cinderella Man hits a lot of the same marks, proclaiming “f--k my last CD, that shit’s in my trash” mere moments before uttering the words “My filet is smoking weed, yeah fakket the steaks are high”. Comebacks can often be undermined with a relapse to previous habits (see Jay-Z striking gold with American Gangster but subsequently releasing lazy duds like The Blueprint 3 and Magna Carta Holy Grail), but on Recovery, Em is incapable of even getting through his comeback songs without embarrassing himself.
The examples cited above go beyond cherry picking; they are representative of Marshall’s writing style throughout the entirety of Recovery. The general strategy is to latch on to a metaphor or a turn of phrase, twist it into a convoluted pun about how wild and crazy he is, and then scream the pun into the microphone at Gilbert Gottfried levels of volume and intensity, often using an unnecessary double time flow. He only truly finds success when he veers away from this formula. Going Through Changes is a welcome change of pace, an honest and compelling look at his drug addiction in the wake of Proof’s death. Talkin’ 2 Myself is considerably less impressive, but it earns points for injecting emotional honesty in place of the types of platitudes that litter much of the rest of the album.
Despite these welcome deviations from that formula, however, Marshall largely clings to what he thinks we want to hear. In Cold Wind Blows, he’s the fearless Slim Shady we all love to hate – he’ll go at anyone, even Elton John and Michael J. Fox! On 25 To Life, ghost-written by The Village-era M. Night Shyamalan, he’s the narrator of a Concept Song with a Twist Ending. With the Dre-produced So Bad, over some celebratory “I’ve-had-sex-recently” horns, he pretends that he’s had sex recently – and indeed, in doing so, he inadvertently threw his conquest’s “spine out of alignment” after “getting the pineapple Schnapps going” (I am not making this up). On No Love, he’s not only “standing on top of his Monopoly board” (that means he’s on top of his game) but also “about to spit the greatest verse of all time” (points awarded for ambition, I suppose).
Each of these characters is as implausible as the cartoonish serial killers of Relapse, but the difference is that this time they come under the guise of “the real Eminem”. The truth is that over the album's running time, it becomes clear that Eminem doesn’t even understand what “the real Eminem” means anymore. With every project since his comeback he has been scrambling to recreate some iteration of his former self without any interest in artistic growth. Unfortunately for Marshall, he will never get another chance to experience what he accomplished in 2002 (life is no Nintendo game). Unfortunately for us, too.Last edited: May 15, 2016
As the developer of Atrilli.net I speak on behalf of our entire team when I say, goodnight.
This was a project I jumped into late 2013 with the works of a couple other people to make things right after Bucktrice died, throughout the years I've had the chance to meet loads of interesting people, and probably people who at no point in my life I will regretting meeting how ever with every musical adventure the tune comes to an end eventually.
It's always sad to see some of the best moments of your life, vanish from you because of something silly and I can openly say some of the best moments of my life have been made on that website, lurking that chat-box and voicing my idiotic opinion and having a serious conversation with people who either agree, or disagree on that idiotic opinion.
As of 20 minutes ago? I can say that I am not sure where atrilli stands but after all the battles we've over come this is going to be one of the hardest.
I won't be replying in this thread with anything other then updates, and honestly I think I just need an all around break from the internet.
Thank you to everyone who supported our network, I know loads of you used our service and may peace be with you till the end.