Feb 28, 2015 A Massachusetts teen urged her friend to k--- himself, telling him to get back into a running car where he inhaled its toxic fumes, before raising money for mental illness in his memory, authorities say. High school senior Michelle Carter, 18, was charged this month with first-degree involuntary manslaughter in 18-year-old Conrad Roy III's July 13 suicide behind a Fairhaven Kmart. It wasn't until police searched through the late teen's cellphone that they said they discovered text messages sent to him by Carter, showing her encouraging him to take his own life — even when he expressed fear and hesitation. Since Roy's tragic death, Carter has regularly posted tributes to him on Facebook and Twitter, like the one pictured here which was posted two days before she was indicted. Despite Carter's extremely public mourning over his death — as seen in a number of Facebook and Twitter posts as recent as three days before her Feb. 5 indictment — authorities accuse her of being a wolf in sheep's clothing. "Not only did Conrad tell Carter in several of his texts prior to his death that he was scared and didn't want to leave his family, she continued to encourage him to take his own life, and when he actually started to carry out the act, he got scared again and exited his truck, but instead of telling him to stay out of the truck ... Carter told him to 'get back in,'" a Fairhaven police detective stated in a police report obtained by the Sun Chronicle. Instead of attempting to a.ssist (Conrad) or notify his family or school officials, Ms. Carter is alleged to have strongly influenced his decision to take his own life, encouraged him to commit suicide and guided him in his engagement of activities which led to his death," the statement read. Next . . .Enlarge FacebookShe tweeted that her September fund-raiser, called Homers for Conrad, pulled in more than $2,300 for mental health awareness. The news likely came as a shocking blow to Roy's family, who watched as his former classmate regularly posted her "love" for him online. Back in September she also organized a softball tournament in his memory. She tweeted that the fund-raiser, called Homers for Conrad, pulled in more than $2,300 for mental health awareness. @michyc47 via TwitterIn addition to preserving his memory she organized a fund-raiser last September for mental health awarness. "Life can be tough, but helping others makes it easier," she allegedly wrote under the account @michyc47. Carter's attorney, Joseph P. Cataldo, told the Standard-Times of New Bedford that the charges against his client will be dropped. "I can't understand why they brought the charge," he told the paper. "They're trying to claim there is manslaughter, when they freely admit the boy took his own life. You can't have it both ways." Carter, who was 17 at the time of Roy's death, will be tried in juvenile court but as an adult. She's reportedly free on $2,500 bail and is due back in New Bedford Juvenile Court on April 17 for a pretrial hearing. http://www.nydailynews.co...icle-1.2132059
Mar 1, 2015 Ugh..I'd say this is a little bit different. They were friends and he may have wanted to be more than that and cared about her a lot(just a guess but very possible). They also sent thousands of texts to each other including her encouraging him to k--- himself while he was doing so. Don't think a random 'k--- yourself' comment on a youtube clip from a complete stranger is quite the same thing. Curious to hear her side of the story, it seems she's just mourning him publicly cuz she assumed she might get in trouble eventually, but it's also very possible she does have strong regrets about this. Either way, I don't know how you can encourage a 'friend' to k--- themselves and be as persistent about it as it sounds like she was. Seems like there might be something missing from the story.
Mar 1, 2015 I dunno, I've heard there are Depressed people that get to a point where they want to k--- themselves so they don't have to live everyday life, but still feel empathy towards significant others for example a friend or parents. (pretty sure something was on the news about a cop who shot a guy that said something like "i'm not man enough to k--- myself, so take my life please" can't remember details). I'm not trying to justify/defend her actions, but maybe she just felt like "if he doesn't do it now, he'll b---- and moan about it till he does" (that's a pretty shallow way to put it, but you get the point)
Mar 1, 2015 That's pretty much true, but the point is so many people are suicidal in their lives at one point or another and they almost always get over it and eventually feel better so you can't just immediately k--- yourself the first time you feel like doing it. To me it doesn't make this any better that he 'wanted' to k--- himself cuz that's obviously how everyone feels when they're suicidal. A week later, month later, year later or whatever it would have been, he would have felt fine most likely.
Sep 2, 2015 Texts messages from her and her bf were released today. What a little miserable attention seeking c----. @red rum @Kon @CoCo @mdemaz CONRAD: How was your day? CARTER: When are you doing it? CONRAD: Since you don’t get your snapchat anymore, I sent them to you. CARTER: (Smiley face) My day was okay. How was yours? CONRAD: Good. CARTER: Really? CONRAD: Yes. CARTER: That’s great. What did you do? CONRAD: Ended up going to work for a little bit and then just looked stuff up. CARTER: When are you gonna do it? Stop ignoring the question The morning of July 12, at 4: 19 AM CARTER: You can’t think about it. You just have to do it. You said you were gonna do it. Like I don’t get why you aren’t. CONRAD: I don’t get it either. I don’t know. CARTER: So I guess you aren’t gonna do it then. All that for nothing. I’m just confused. Like you were so ready and determined. CONRAD: I am gonna eventually. I really don’t know what I’m waiting for but I have everything lined up. CARTER: No, you’re not, Conrad. Last night was it. You kept pushing it off and you say you’ll do it, but you never do. It’s always gonna be that way if you don’t take action. You’re just making it harder on yourself by pushing it off. You just have to do it. Do you want to do it now? CONRAD: Is it too late? I don’t know. It’s already light outside. I’m gonna go back too sleep. Love you. I’ll text you tomorrow. CARTER: No. It’s probably the best time now because everyone is sleeping. Just go somewhere in your truck and no one is really out there right now because it’s an awkward time. If you don’t do it now you’re never gonna do it, and you can say you’ll do it tomorrow, but you probably won’t. Tonight? Love you. CONRAD: Thank you. CARTER: For what. Are you awake? CONRAD: Yes. CARTER: Are you gonna do it today? CONRAD: Yes. CARTER: Like in the day time? CONRAD: Should I? CARTER: Yeah, it’s less suspicious. You won’t think about it as much and you’ll get it over with instead of wait until the night. CONRAD: Yeah then I will. Like where? Like I could go in any enclosed area. CARTER: Go in your truck and drive in a parking lot somewhere, to a park or something. Do it like early. Do it now, like early. CONRAD: Didn’t we say this was suspicious? CARTER: No. I think night is more suspicious, a kid sitting in his car turning on the radio. Just do it. It wouldn’t be suspicious and it won’t take long. CONRAD: Okay. I’m taking Holly for a walk. CARTER: Okay. CONRAD: I don’t know why I’m like this. CARTER: Sometimes things happen and we never have the answers why. CONRAD: Like, why am I so hesitant lately. Like two weeks ago I was willing to try everything and now I’m worse, really bad, and I’m LOL not following through. It’s eating me inside. CARTER: You’re so hesitant because you keeping over thinking it and keep pushing it off. You just need to do it, Conrad. The more you push it off, the more it will eat at you. You’re ready and prepared. All you have to do is tum the generator on and you will be free and happy. No more pushing it off. No more waiting. CONRAD: You’re right. CARTER: If you want it as bad as you say you do it’s time to do it today. CONRAD: Yup. No more waiting. CARTER: Okay. I’m serious. Like you can’t even wait ’till tonight. You have to do it when you get back from your walk. CONRAD: Thank you. CARTER: For what? CONRAD: Still being here. CARTER: I would never leave you. You’re the love of my life, my boyfriend. You are my heart. I’d never leave you. CONRAD: Aw. CARTER: I love you. CONRAD: Love you, too. CARTER: When will you be back from your walk? CONRAD: Like, five minutes. CARTER: Okay. So you gonna do it? CONRAD: I guess. CARTER: Well, I want you to be ready and sure. What does that mean? CONRAD: I don’t know. I’m freaking out again. I’m over thinking. CARTER: I thought you wanted to do this. This time is right and you’re ready. You just need to do it. You can’t keep living this way. You just need to do it like you did the last time and not think about it and just do it, babe. You can’t keep doing this every day. CONRAD: I do want to but I’m like freaking for my family I guess. I don’t know. CARTER: Conrad, I told you I’ll take care of them. Everyone will take care of them to make sure they won’t be alone and people will help them get through it. We talked about this and they will be okay and accept it. People who commit suicide don’t think this much. They just could do it. CONRAD: I know. I know. LOL. Thinking just drives me more crazy. CARTER: You just need to do it, Conrad, or I’m gonna get you help. You can’t keep doing this everyday. CONRAD: Okay. I’m gonna do it today. CARTER: You promise? CONRAD: I promise, babe. I have to now. CARTER: Like right now? CONRAD: Where do I go? CARTER: And you can’t break a promise. And just go in a quiet parking lot or something. CONRAD: Okay. CARTER: Go somewhere you know you won’t get caught. You can find a place. I now you can. Are you doing it now? Later that afternoon, the conversation continued CONRAD: I’m determined. CARTER: I’m happy to hear that. CONRAD: I’m ready. CARTER: Good because it’s time, babe. You know that. When you get back from the beach you’ve gotta go do it. You’re ready. You’re determined. It’s the best time to do it. CONRAD: Okay, I will. CARTER: Are you back? CONRAD: No more thinking. CARTER: Yes. No more thinking. You need to just do it. No more waiting. CONRAD: On way back. I know where to go now. CARTER: Where? CONRAD: A parking lot. There is going to be no cars there at 9:00. So that’s when I’ll be found. CARTER: Okay, perfect. When will you be home? CONRAD: Ten minutes. Ha ha, that’s perfect. CARTER: Okay. And, well, yeah, I don’t know. CONRAD: Like, I don’t want to k--- anyone else with me. CARTER: You won’t. CONRAD: When they open the door they won’t know it’s odorless and colorless. CARTER: You’re over thinking. They will see the generator and realize you breathed in CO too. CONRAD: So should I keep it in the back seat or front? CARTER: In the front. You could write on a piece of paper and tape it on saying carbon monoxide or something if you’re scared. CONRAD: I was thinking that but someone might see it before it actually happens. CARTER: Well, wait, the generator is gonna be on because you’ll be passed out, so they’ll know you used carbon monoxide. Dead. It’s not loud is it? CONRAD: Not really, LMAO. CARTER: Okay, good. Are you gonna do it now? 5:08 PM, Conrad returned from the beach and wanted to back out CONRAD: I’m home. CARTER: Okay. CONRAD: Ah. CARTER: What? CONRAD: I don’t know. I’m stressing. CARTER: You’re fine. It’s gonna be okay. You just gotta do it, babe. You can’t think about it. CONRAD: Okay. Okay. I got this. CARTER: Yes, you do. I believe in you. Did you delete the messages? CONRAD: Yes. But you’re going to keep messaging me. CARTER: I will until you turn on the generator. CONRAD: Okay. Well, I’m bringing my sisters for ice cream. CARTER: So will you do it when you get back? CONRAD: Yup, I’ll go right there. CARTER: Okay. CONRAD: Love you. CARTER: I love so much. CONRAD: (Smiley face). CARTER: 33. CONRAD: Ha ha. What are you doing? CARTER: Nothing really. Just resting. CONRAD: Okay. Ha, ha I’m procrastinating. CARTER: Yeah, ha ha, I know. Are you back? CONRAD: Yup. CARTER: So it’s time? CONRAD: Oh, it’s been time. CARTER: Are you gonna do it now? CONRAD: I just don’t know how to leave them, you know. CARTER: Say you’re gonna go the store or something. CONRAD: Like, I want them to know that I love them. CARTER: They know. That’s one thing they definitely know. You’re over thinking. CONRAD: I know I’m over thinking. I’ve been over thinking for a while now. CARTER: I know. You just have to do it like you said. Are you gonna do it now? CONRAD: I still haven’t left yet, ha ha. CARTER: Why? CONRAD: Leaving now. CARTER: Okay. You can do this. CONRAD: Okay. I’m almost there. 6:25 PM, the last message was sent After the exchange of these messages, Michelle left her house and talked with Conrad for 43 minutes. According to the court documents, at some point during that call, Conrad got out of the car because he got scared, but Michelle told him to get back in. His body was found in his pickup truck after his parents reported him missing. On the day of Conrad’s murder, Michelle was already seeking for attention on Twitter: “Such a beautiful soul gone too soon.” A little later she added: “I’ll always remember your bright light and smile. You’ll forever be in my heart, I love you Conrad.” She even organized a suicide prevention fundraiser in his name. When the allegations of involuntary manslaughter were laid out, her Twitter account disappeared. You can still see some of it using The Internet Archive. This is the first time such a case has ever been tried worldwide. She’s now 18 and is being prosecuted as an adult, charged with involuntary manslaughter. https://www.bizarrepedia.com/charged-with-suicide/
Sep 2, 2015 We already have this thread https://forum.sectioneighty.com/girlfriend-encourages-boyfriend-to-commit-suicide.t41417/
Sep 2, 2015 I don't understand it, really... But one thing I know for sure, she is a f---in b---- a--- c---- with no heart
Sep 2, 2015 Definitely. He was literally looking for any reason not to do it, and all she did was try to rationalize it and push him towards it. "Your family will be ok", "did you do it yet, what are you waiting for?" are you f---ing kidding me? Asking him if he deleted the messages? Then the balls to start a gofundme in his honor to raise suicide awareness, and ask his sister if she had seen him?
Sep 2, 2015 Just read all those text messages. Unbelievable. Worst part about it is she is throwing in "I love you" text's in there as well. How do you claim to love someone while you are influencing them to k--- themselves? I don't get this one at all. There has to be some underlying mental issue with this chick. Should have used that $2,300 for her own mental issue.
Sep 2, 2015 Saw this all over Facebook last week. What a psycho b----, sad thing is she'll probably only get a slap on the wrist in terms of actual jail time. Didn't realize this was fairly local. Probably like an hour away from me.
Sep 2, 2015 She was too eager for it to happen and it's completely contradictory to the whole 'I love you' and 'you're my boyfriend' s--- she was saying. It's really weird. Like she was really pushing for it to happen, like she was encouraging him to try a new exciting activity. Is she a secret psychopath? There's no consistency to her behavior. It's very odd. Is it comparable to wanting a spouse to die so you can claim insurance money? The comparison being that he dies and she gets to claim and be rich in all this love and appreciation from appearing to be an angel 'raising money for his legacy'? I know that's probably a stupid comparison but I'm just trying to figure out where the f--- her head was/is at.
