Eminem Stanley's Basement | Discussion Thread

Started by Oldboy, Nov 28, 2014, in Eminem Add to Reading List

Relapse vs recovery

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  1. PistolPistol
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    PistolPistol Inappropriate? So be it. I don't see it..

    May 14, 2019
    Bobby. There and gone
     
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  2. henzINNIT
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    May 14, 2019
    1.0 artists were all victims of poor management and delays.
    2.0 artists had that as well as the terrible in-house production.

    Slaughterhouse wins because Shady killed the group. Don't see how you can blame Budden when his criticisms are mostly true (he was making them before WTOH dropped like the turd it was) and there's a finished "Glass House" sitting on Just Blaze's computer. That s--- got delayed into oblivion before things turned hostile, no wonder Budden stepped away from it all.
     
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  3. thatmotherfkr
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    May 14, 2019
    I unno, Crooked and Royce have both put fault on Budden for a lot of delays and bs. Budden seems like he was raised by a single mother, or just around too many women growing up. He has woman energy, especially during confrontation. Seems to me that there was a lot of 'putting up' with joes foot stomping bs around the studio. Didnt I hear Glass House is sitting on Just Blazes computer, minus most of joe's verses cuz of his 'f--- you pay me' attitude, as though the rest of the group isnt in the same boat, choosing play ball cuz thats the game? being in a four man group and f---in up the chemistry by constantly goin "me me me", is woman s---, joe bugs me
     
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  4. henzINNIT
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    May 16, 2019
    Of the leaks we've heard, Joe is present. I don't think he was a problem creating the music. I think he became problematic when the usual release date bs started.
     
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  5. thatmotherfkr
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    May 16, 2019
    Yeah i unno I just thought I remembered Crooked saying something about getting joe to deliver was like pulling teeth, might of been later down the road he got problematic. But one problematic dude in a group is the woman of the group. His podcast sounds more like a gaggle of squawkin b------s than the view does. Just listening to joes side of the story "it was everyone else, not me, I told them the whole time(musta been a fun work environment) I had a problem with this, I had a problem with that, if they just listened to me"...when a buncha dudes are standing around trying to figure out a situation, you know who they dont listen to? the bitching woman" When the rest talk about slaughterhouse it seems like a three man group, featuring their problematic friend joe. I unno, but joe bugs me
     
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  6. Detroit24
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    May 18, 2019
    Interesting to hear the bodyguard perspective either way. I believe their is truth to what he is saying

    I’m sure he may over exaggerate certain situations to sell his book...
     
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  7. JulnHT
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    So, english is not my first language (so it's difficult for me to decide) and a few minutes ago there was the question who is the better lyricist - Eminem or Andre 3000. The most of the guys said A3000
    So can you guys tell me a real answer and not a hate or stan answer
     
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  8. Ricky
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    Okay. Eminem is great spitter, like for real, he can rhyme s--- that doesn't rhyme, he can spit hard and Kamikaze is his post-hiatus opus magnum (sorry Relaspe fans, sorry Recovery fans, it is what it is)... but Andre? Andreeeeeeeeee?! *Drako voice* 3000 is top10 no doubt, he was silent for a while, but that "Come Home" verse, oh my God... Eminem can only dream about a verse like that.

    s---, I still want that Adnre solo album since Speakerboxxx / The Love Below

    s---
     
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  9. MichaelsMad
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    Well you also gotta look at output. EMS had way more material out than andre. It's a little easier for andre to take it to places he hasnt yet, esp solo. But I love both of em. It's one of those things I dont think you could hate if someone said andre or hate if someone said Em. Both crazy writers
     
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  10. MichaelsMad
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    I always say he was a loose cannon on MMLP but on TES he was more focused
     
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    OutKast > Bad Meets Evil + Shady 2.0 + Shady 3.0
     
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  12. Sav Stanfield
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    I've always thought Em woulda been better off if he went the Andre route and just dropped in for a feature now and then instead of everything he's dropped post-hiatus.

    obviously 3 Stacks > Em now though
     
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  13. Winter
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    Andre is easily top 5 all time and I wish more than anything that he still gave a s--- about making music
     
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  14. Buddha
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    Andre is better than Eminem, and I love Em a lot. But Andre is just way more appealing and his music can be enjoyed in just about any setting: hanging out with friends, late night with my girl, while driving, at parties, while getting high or drinking or both. You really can’t go wrong when playing 3 stacks (and OutKast).

    Eminem is more of a niche rapper. Andre is just way more versatile. Em can put words together better than Andre, but 3 stacks is no slouch in this department at all.

    In terms of who’s the better lyricist overall, I’d say it’s 3 stacks.
     
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  15. Enez
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    3 Stacks is WAY better than Em in every aspect. Well, maybe besides their cartoons.
     
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  16. GOLOVKING
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    Eminem is an excellent songwriter just not better than 3 Stacks.
     
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  17. Z Gangsta
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    May 19, 2019
    Eminem
     
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    In which place is 3000 better? Storytelling? Because i read a lot that Em is the best when putting words together and creating rhymes. No hate for Andre, just want to know
     
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  19. BIGFOOT
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    Prime Em>>>Andre 3000
     
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  20. Wreckless
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    The best selling rapper of all time is a niche rapper?

    Eminem just doesn't make the kind of music you would bump at parties or gatherings but that doesn't make him a niche rapper. A lot of his music is best enjoyed alone. But he does have some songs that can be played at parties.

    In 2000-2004 everyone was bumping Eminem. But this is 2019 and his music these days really isn't that good. His relevance is not what it once so it's normal we don't hear many people bump Eminem.
     
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