Jan 25, 2020 https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/eminem-music-to-be-murdered-by/ Written by our very own retired @WPG TBH I don't think I really disagree w anything. The 5.5 may be a little misleading because its actually pretty positive. I totally agree that the relationship songs s--- and the young guys k--- their features. I'm just curious, wpg, since I didn't see u mention it (or I missed it), how do you feel about I will, lock it up & no regrets?
Jan 25, 2020 Yeah he correctly notes that the I Will verse only starts to live when Em starts dissing jamar
Jan 25, 2020 Great review. I kinda wish WPG wrote something longer about Eminem's artistic decline - maybe the pretext could be writing about Relapse? Since it was his last true cohesive album and wpg twitted about listening to it lately
Jan 25, 2020 yeah this doesn't make sense, they were extra indulgent with revival because it was anti-trump I guess. paul didn't write the review for it though
Jan 25, 2020 They also have kami and revival both as 5 lol. Revival should definitely be lower and (imo) kami higher If it was because it was anti trump that would be dumb and not objective
Jan 25, 2020 yeah. well (i hope i don't derail the thread too much) actually a review is only interesting because it is subjective imo. the preferences, the writing, the taste of the writer is what makes a review special and different. what would be the point of an "objective" review, whatever that is? I agree that their revival review wasn't very good because, like often, I'm uncomfortable with several pitchfork writers' conception of the relations between art and politics. if you think the purpose of modern art is to be moral or to moralize people or to make a moral point, you can't really talk about any good writers, painters, etc imo nietzsche has written about this btw. people who read shakespeare under a moral light just don't get shakespeare's work nor shakespeare's intentions
Jan 25, 2020 True. And yeah I said this before I don't believe in objective reviews at all, there's always personal opinions/views the writer adds to his review (which is, in general, fine) And yah also agree on the politics thing.
Jan 25, 2020 The review was tedious but quite positive so 5.5 is disingenuous, and little more than we’ve come to expect from Pitchfork
Jan 25, 2020 How are these reviews representative if they are not written by the same author? I mean same author for same artist Like that you can at least compare album reviews of one artist
Jan 25, 2020 Eminem’s bars are picked apart, and the only thing you say about Young M.A. is she’s “inhumanly charismatic”. Well, that charisma doesn’t change the fact that her verse has all of the worst lines in the album, combined with trash delivery. You try to hide your seething anti-stannery behind objectivism, but it falls flatter than your feelings on this album. I keep thinking I might read something by you that shows you have changed from that ‘guy who used to be a stan’, but you haven’t. Eminem still has his hooks in you, and it’s incredibly transparent through your reviews.
Jan 25, 2020 also wpg if you ever read this: what did you think about eminem's rapping on those kinda nights?
Jan 25, 2020 Overall, this is a bad album. Not a bad review tbh. Revival should have been a 1 though and that call of duty motivation themed album after a 1-2. You can’t give an album over 5, when a 50 year old is still trying to make relationship songs to try and become relevant like the LTWYL song. I really hope Eminem knows that song only blew up because of Rihanna. And this old man has been in 2 relationships that we know of. Trailer park Kim which he made a song about killing her. And Carey who he ended up having to diss. He’s too old for that
