Jay Z vs Kanye West

Started by Michael Myers, Aug 8, 2020, in Music Add to Reading List

Jay vs Kanye

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  1. Michael Myers
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    Aug 8, 2020
    I think this might be close on here.

    For me its, no surprise, Jay.

    Let me start by saying their collabs (on their albums and their collab WTT are the best thing ever to me).

    MBDTF is my favorite album of all time probably. And LR, CD, Graduation and 808 are also classics to me. Yeezus was fine, TLOP a wasted opportunity and to me ye and jik were average - bad. In between the dude dropped hits and misses (like, he absolutely killed Live Fast / Die Young but went full I hope u Diarreah on the Cudi song.. could have been ghostwritten by someone).

    Even a few years back I loved his verse on Pop Style. But at the same time he dropped a lot of weirdo s--- and lots of his music leaked (which included a lot of actual mumble rap). Some of it had a lot of potential tho as Yhandi (s/o @Donkey Kong Cuntry ) pointed out.

    I'm not gonna discuss his shenanigans, lets focus on their actual output.

    As for Jay. The dude has 4 classics to me. Bp1, AG, TBA, RD. But then like most of the rest is 8/10 for me as well. Even his 'worst' album is kinda hard to hate when it got a few killer Dre collabs on it. Speaking of Dre, he and Jay are responsible for my favorite, most perfect rap song (The Watcher).

    Guest verses, he always kills them. Back in the day, but also in the 2010's (d--- dealer Anonymous, Seen It All, What's Free). Yes he had some misses for sure (* cough * Monster) but he doesn't f--- up guest verses the way some others do.

    Despite all that they are responsible for eachothers succes for a huge part. Hov gave Ye shine, and Ye created some of Jays biggest songs. So yeah I'm totally comfortable having these guys as my 2 favorites along w Weezy.

    Who you got?
     
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  2. Ricky
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    Aug 8, 2020
    Tl;dr but Jigga
     
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  3. Michael Myers
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    Sorry I dont just do 3 word posts to get my post count up

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  4. Ricky
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    "No no no" in the other thread Myers, how about that
     
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  5. The Moon Man
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    The Moon Man Out of my mind

    Aug 8, 2020
    Hov because seriously, f--- Kanye
     
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  6. Brubbels
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    Jay Z is the most boring artist ever Kanye is the best living artist of our generation and it’s not even close
     
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  7. The Moon Man
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    The Moon Man Out of my mind

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    Kanye is a lunatic nowadays. Jay also has bars and bars on Kanye.
     
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    OwI I was riding on a bike on a very late night

    Aug 8, 2020
    who u think outdid who on wtt?
     
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    Spider Man With the hyphen

    Aug 8, 2020
    Overall discography goes to Kanye, but in 2020 I'd rather take a Hov album than a Kanye album.
     
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  10. Winter
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    Aug 8, 2020
    Couple years ago I would’ve sweat over this and maybe given the edge to Kanye, but even Hov’s worst albums aren’t hitting the depths of Ye and JIK
     
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    The fall off of Kanye is amazing because it showcased just how hypocritical people can be

    now its fine to have almost a decade of your work be utter trash
     
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    BIGFOOT More than a myth!

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    More than a decade if were being honest.
     
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  13. OwI
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    OwI I was riding on a bike on a very late night

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    what these 2 above me talking about?
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  14. Worm
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    Lol Kanye doesn't even write all his songs and can't out rap Jay
     
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    Aug 8, 2020
    you mean 3 years?
     
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  16. DKC
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    I'd take Kanye over Jay but I wouldn't be mad at either choice. I just like Ye more personally.
     
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  17. Antman
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    Aug 8, 2020
    Ppl act like Jay’s output outside of 4:44 hasn’t been painfully average lol. MCHG, the carters, etc - just average. I feel like Jay isn’t consistent at all. At least with Kanye, each time we’ve received great releases up until Ye.
     
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  18. Boos
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    Aug 8, 2020
    Kanye.

    I’ve never been the biggest jay fan. But the proof is in the pudding on wax with Kanye outdoing him on WTT.

    people calling Kanye trash for a decade when MBDTF, WTT, Cruel Summer hits, Yeezus, TLOP, and KSG all came out within the last ten years.

    Before 4:44, the overwhelming majority of Jay’s great music since, like, 2007, has involved Kanye.
     
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    Jordan ain’t the GOAT because he s----d on the Wizards then
     
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    Aug 8, 2020
    Kanye didn't retire and come back... and Jordan didn't have anyone else score his points lol
     
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