Aug 11, 2020 And according to the bottom line @Australia and @TimmyT were special guests @OffTopic BS
Aug 11, 2020 Strangely doesn't feel that old. What's the earliest hip hop clip discoverable? I'm going to go have a dig through youtube.
Aug 11, 2020 Muhammad Ali rhyming is lowkey one of the first one rappers lol. I've also seen a clip from the 30s or 40s with some band and their music sounded like Hip-Hop.
Aug 11, 2020 Ya there were def so many precursors who contributed to the dna. thats what makes rap such an american artform or whatever, u can see its lineage in rock n roll, jazz, slave spirituals etc etc. what happened in the bronx during the 70s codified, then commercialized what had been murmuring under the surface @Grimace is right to commemorate this date imo. nice to see u acknowledging rap didnt start with SSLP!! :p
Aug 11, 2020 if you want stuff from the 70s, search for funky 4+1, cold crush brothers, full force, treacherous three. Not sure what the absolute earliest clips will be but they'll probably be live because in its beginnings hip-hop wasn't recorded, only done live with a DJ. All of the recordings of that stuff is live bootlegs as far as I know.
Aug 11, 2020 @the kid on mars (or anyone) if you want a good book that covers early hip-hop, I'd recommend this:
Aug 11, 2020 @Donkey Kong Cuntry thanks for all the recommendations! Some of this 70s stuff isn't half bad!
Aug 11, 2020 It’s attributed to that date because of the party but it’s probably a little bit older than that. 7 years ago I got to see Kool Herc, his sister, Rakim, BDK, Premo, Red Alert in Central Park (for free). Jeff Chang also held a panel discussion there with Herc about his book. I thought the first half of his book was great but he lost me a bit with the political shift it took in the 2nd half with regards to the early 90s riots. I would love to see a book about The Source’s entire history, because that part of the book was the most fascinating to me. I didn’t realize how long Benzino had been terrorizing that magazine.
Aug 11, 2020 thats dope. i saw afrika bambaataa perform once. what was the first show u went to btw? i feel like youve been a hhh in nyc for a minute
Aug 11, 2020 I never saw Afrika in person (and apparently that's a good thing) but Soulsonic Force did perform at that Kool Herc event I mentioned before. My father used to work with one of them. My first concert was Talib Kweli in the Spring of 2003 at St. Johns University in Queens. I think the ticket was like $6 or $7. Black Rob, Lone Catalysts, People's Army (a Dead Prez affiliated group), Arsonists (Q-Unique, Swel and Jise) were opening acts. Talib brought out Consequence and Kanye. This is post Blueprint Kanye but pre College Dropout Kanye. He performed Through The Wire and Two Words and then served as Talib's hypeman for the rest of his set. He received some light applause when he came out. He was known but still nowhere near the level he's at now. Of course in about a year after that show, that began to change when College Dropout came out.
Aug 11, 2020 You won't find a lot of videos but there are some audio recordings of 70's park jams in the Bronx. My father and uncle grew up in the Bronx at that time and while my dad wasn't that into Hip Hop my uncle definitely hung out and went to some jams. Sugarhill g--- is both respected and looked down upon in Hip Hop. Respected because they had the first big record but then they also had Hank who jacked Grandmaster Caz's rhymes and the group was basically put together like a boy band.
Aug 11, 2020 Can't quite remember where I saw it, but I watched a video of an early 50s/60s video of a calypso battle between two artists that felt like the genesis of hip-hop and rap. I'll keep trying to find the vid but like @cpt awesome WPG joint acc said, rap has such an intriguing lineage of different forms of music. HBD to the Love Of My Life
Aug 12, 2020 f--- i did so much coke it went to the back of my brain, sent me back 47 years ago where i met some black fellaz and was like "nah my niggaz, racism is dead in 2020, everyones scared of this thing called corona and racism is dead now so everyone says n-----. Oh btw, you c---- haven't discovered rap yet so i'll help ya out..." yeah so anyway rap was invented because i played australian hip hop from the future and some black-american guys stole it of us aussies
