Eminem Big Sean - Friday Night Cypher (feat. Eminem, and every Detroit rapper ever)

Started by Boos, Sep 2, 2020, in Eminem Add to Reading List

Aside from the already established rappers (Em, Sean, Royce), who had the best verse?

  1. Tee Grizzley

  2. Kash Doll

  3. Cash Kidd

  4. Payroll Giovanni

  5. 42 Dugg

  6. Boldy James

  7. Drego

  8. Sada Baby

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  1. Swizz
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    Sep 4, 2020
    Honestly I think it's a combination of all of this stuff (in no order)

    - He's just straight up out of ideas. Bottom line, the big problem with Ye and Jesus Is King is that they just weren't very interesting. He wasn't making bold moves anymore, nor was he having any fun. And this happens with many artists but consider the fact that it's coming after an unimpeachable 15-year run and after he becomes a husband and a father. I don't mean to let him off the hook, but it's unsurprising, maybe even inevitable

    - He's busy with fashion. This has been building since the Yeezus era, but it became a real issue in the last few years. I don't think he thinks he has much more to accomplish with music, so it just isn't his primary focus anymore. Just look at the reports that he didn't record Ye until a week before its release date - he treated it as a total afterthought

    - His obsession with religion. Nobody wants to hear that s---, at least nobody that is listening to a Kanye West album. This isn't to disparage religion (that's another topic), but it creates a barrier to entry that none of his other albums have. Can you imagine how excited people would be about Kanye and Dre getting together to work on a rap album? But for a continuation (or sequel or whatever it is) to JIK? No thanks

    - He's surrounded by yes men. Not unlike why Eminem keeps making bad albums despite trying different things. The people around him are afraid/unwilling to give him honest feedback, so he's going to keep putting out garbage if he can't assess it critically. If this wasn't a factor he wouldn't be "running for president"

    - His mental illness. I don't even want to go down this rabbit hole but it's undeniable at this point. No doubt in my mind his personal issues have severely warped his judgment
     
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  2. Boos
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    Sep 4, 2020
    To add on to Swizz’s point, I think the 15 year run he had where he was constantly told he couldn’t do something or his stuff wasn’t good enough, and overcoming all of those things actually plays apart in his downfall. Now that we’re at the point where people are actually iffy on him, it seems as if he doesn’t care about that sentiment because everyone was so wrong before. He used to use it as motivation, but now it just seems as if he writes off anything critical as being incorrect.
     
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  3. henzINNIT
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    Sep 4, 2020
    Maybe age is catching up with me but I hated most of these verses and was genuinely relived when Royce started.
     
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  4. Adonisfxx
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    Sep 4, 2020
    s--- song to be honest... Wheres Em Forever flow at? No passion, slow encore fast MMLP2 then i dont know... Nothing good since MTBMB
     
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  5. asvdawg
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  6. froboy6942
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  7. Mudkip
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    Sep 4, 2020
    Em sounds great on trap production, this was unreal
     
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  8. RetiredAccount
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    Sep 4, 2020
    aight den, did i miss something? eminem and tee grizzley and sada had beef rite? or at least they fired shots ish...?

    have we discussed how this song makes that all moot
     
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  9. hargydon
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    Sep 4, 2020
    In terms of Em & Tee I'm sure Royce squashed it behind the scenes.
     
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  10. Neppert
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    First reaction: song sucks.
    Half of these rappers can't stay on beat and my 3 months old niece can make better beats with just her rattle while making poopie noises because she's shi--ing her f---ing diaper. I had an old school Nintendo with better music ffs
    Stop lying to yourselves.
     
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  11. Jeans
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    Yellow Perkies look like minions
     
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  12. Chaotic Progress
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    Or just a random gun bar to appeal to battle rappers / couldn't resist once he realised 'pull, it's surprise' can pun as pulitzer prize.
     
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  13. Jeans
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    Wish Danny brown was on here
     
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  14. Michael Myers
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    Sep 4, 2020
    Lol I think he is talking about kanye bro

    Swizz points were about why kanye sucks now
     
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  15. Ricky
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    Sep 4, 2020
    Or just.... A Pulitzer Price for Em?!?!?!?!?
     
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  16. Spatula
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    Nope, quite the opposite.
     
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  17. Jeans
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    Man, I remember back when I used to get jumped for my f---ing Pumas
    Run home and go f--- my room up
    These streets will try to vacuum you up
    That's why the avenue where I grew up was 8 Mile and Hoover (What?)
    'Cause it s----d like a Roomba


    How is that about Kanye
    Edit read the post wrong but the point remains
     
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  18. Brubbels
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    New Slaves on Jools Holland is the greatest moment in musical history
     
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  19. Brubbels
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    JIK and Ye were both utter trash. KSG was great. But his last true classic, TLOP, was only 4 years ago. So I still have hope brah
     
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