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Started by Enigma, May 12, 2021, in Life Add to Reading List

  1. DKC
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    May 15, 2021
    perhaps the dumbest paragraph I've ever read on this forum
     
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    May 15, 2021
    Netanyahu needs to go.
     
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  3. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    May 15, 2021
    Hoping the centrists can form a government after these next elections & boot him out of power.
     
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  4. Rodamon
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    dude what are you talking about? a real boycott to israel for starters is a very simple concept and a very powerful measure, see South africa. I just think you keep justifying things, i am sorry.
     
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    May 16, 2021
    Mad stupid n----s itt

    israel gotta go
     
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  6. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    May 16, 2021
    Israel is a country with nuclear power. A boycott isn’t going to make Israel disappear. You guys are hoping for a pipe dream.
     
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  7. Rodamon
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    May 16, 2021
    I said for starters. Your position was pretty much like "US should keep giving weapons to Israel because rockets will fly anyway" What logic is that? If you are pro Israel just say it.
     
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  8. hargydon
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    hargydon No investigation, no right to speak

    May 16, 2021
    UK petition for sanctions to be introduced against Israel — almost at 300,000 signatures after 2 days already.

    Anyone from the UK should sign this:

    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/585314
     
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  9. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    May 16, 2021
    That’s quite literally not what I said lol:
    Im not “pro-Israel” I’m just acknowledging reality. If I could snap my fingers & go back to 1948 & stop Israel from being founded, I would. That’s long gone now though. I think a lot of the “solutions” being thrown out there aren’t really solutions. The U.S. cuts off funding from Israel then what? Russia or China fills that void to try to increase their geo-political influence. I don’t see how that’s better.
     
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    I have no idea how you could come to that conclusion from people advocating for the ending of $3.8B annually being sent to Israel from US tax money in military aid contributing to systematic genocide.
     
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

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    That’s literally my point. They want to stop the aid but once that happens, would they care anymore? I could be wrong but just seems like a very isolationist/“out of sight out of mind” mindset. We don’t want to contribute to the bloodshed but we don’t care if it gets resolved or not.
     
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    May 16, 2021
    ????

    This is one of the only direct actions the people of these Western countries can take to stop the support of the suppressive regime. Their money is contributing to this human rights abuse & they’re denouncing their support & you’re disagreeing with some completely random take you’ve just made up in your mind.
    Who’s even saying this?

    Not wanting to fund a genocide isn’t a bad thing & I don’t know why you keep arguing against this stance. Like I said before, weird neutral stances that are becoming very telling.
     
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    Satire article that a lot of people could learn from.
     
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  15. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

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    Now you’re just strawmanning me lol. I don’t know why you keep interacting with me in such bad faith. Let me reiterate: I find it frustrating when people on the left constantly scream about ending military aid to Israel as if that in itself will resolve the conflict. It won’t. So that makes me wonder whether all these people posting “support Palestine/stop funding Israel” on their IG stories are genuine in that support or simply don’t want their government contributing to their bloodshed. Like if the U.S. ended military aid to Israel tomorrow, would they care anymore? And if they do what comes after that?

    I just feel like there’s very little substance out there. Just general messages of support (which is fine) & unrealistic vague “solutions” (“end Israel”). It’s weird to see the generally anti-war/anti-imperialism/anti-interventionism side of the political spectrum advocating to like abolish a country with no real specifics lol.
     
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    May 16, 2021
    thats some great stuff
     
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    man you are getting so frustrating to discuss with. i really think you are feeling personally attacked because you are kind of neutral on this topic so you are making some real mental gymnastics here. How stopping to fund a genocidal country is not a real and meaningful measure?
     
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

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    What mental gymnastics? I literally can’t be anymore clear to you guys lol. Does the U.S. stopping military aid to Israel resolve the conflict in itself? No. So how is it a solution to anything? It may be the morally/ethically right thing to do but it doesn’t actually resolve the conflict.
     
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  19. Rodamon
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    But who said it will totally resolve the conflict? So every action to solve a situation has to be a single one and final? What logic is that? As yourself said, it is a complex situation, so again, for starters, how about stop funding a f---ing genocidal state? Jeez mate
     
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

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    The bolded is the exact opposite of what’s been said itt & on much of social media lol.

    which is what I’m saying: you’re seeing a lot of oversimplifications & “solutions” that aren’t real solutions.
     
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