Aug 19, 2022 I'm thinking it's because people expected her to serve a supporting role, as Walter's wife, and it took her almost 3 seasons to show a shred of empathy for him and finally get with the program for a little while before going back to being an insufferable b---- again, which makes me suspect she only ever cooperated out of practical necessity rather than love or loyalty. That and her filing for divorce and treating him like garbage right after the news of his cancer remission. Seen as Walter's wife before anything else (an obviously patriarchal view) not giving him her unconditional love and support was her ultimate moral failure. Seen first of all as an individual or as a mother, she might come out more sympathetic.
Aug 19, 2022 Better yet: Junkie Jesse the race mixing snitch should have spent the rest of his life in the neo-Nazi cage.
Aug 19, 2022 This is a joke right? She should show empathy to an egotistical murdering criminal who was putting their lives in danger? LOL Her only real moral failing was not turning in Walter much sooner.
Aug 19, 2022 My thoughts: Saul getting caught so quickly was a bit of a letdown. Happening in a dumpster was fitting though. I just wanted more Gene on the run. The whole "self-destruction until I get caught" trope is very lame, especially after paying to get vacuumed. I thoroughly enjoyed everything after Saul got caught. The jail scenes with Marie were incredible, and talking down to 7 years was classic Saul. Saul deliberately getting 80+ years instead of 7 was f---ing stupid and was completely against his character. All of a sudden he's a good person just so Kim hates him 10% less? His final monologue was beautiful though. All of the flashbacks with Mike, Walt, and Chuck were awesome. I still think the "Lalo in Germany" scenes are some of the worst in BB/BCS history. Combined with Lalo's predictable death, it was the worst writing in the series. Overall, it was still a great ending to the best series of all time.
Aug 19, 2022 I'm not saying she's a bad person. I'm saying she's a bad character in general. Although I'm only on season one of BB for a rewatch so maybe my opinion will change. It's been ages since I've watched BB.
Aug 19, 2022 I thought the ending was pretty fitting actually. It makes sense that someone does jail time for everything that transpired during the BCS/BB timeline, and I think Saul finally realized he should confront his problems rather than hide behind his Saul Goodman persona. My main complaint about the final season is that it was largely predictable. It was still executed well but everyone pretty much knew how Lalo would die in the lab and that Saul would go to jail. The biggest surprise to me was Howard's death...I was genuinely shocked when I saw that. I had a feeling he'd die by committing suicide but had no idea the cartel and legal parts of the show would collide and end with Lalo murdering Howard (and then having them buried together). That was probably the greatest moment of the final season.
Aug 22, 2022 I honestly thought he was gonna go on the run again after the dumb a--- in the taxi got arrested, I think him staying was a f--- up on his part But like you said great ending to a great show
Aug 24, 2022 If anyone would ask me what they should watch first, I'd still recommend them to start with Breaking Bad. Saul doesn't really feel like the one we know from BCS until like season 4. Gus in BB is way too quite at first and Mike looks way younger. It's way easier to ignore those little things if you start with BCS after finishing BB.
Aug 24, 2022 I said it somewhere in this thread but I'll say it again for context here. What makes BCS an expertly written series is that even as a prequel, it makes more sense to watch it after BB. I guess because of the continuation of Saul's BB timeline. Yesterday I watched the "Better Call Saul" episode on BB with the scene where Saul is kidnapped and I didn't realise/remember how spot on the continuation of that scene was in BCS.
Aug 24, 2022 After my third time watching BB years ago I was positive it was the last, but towards the end of BCS I tricked myself into revisiting it mainly for Saul parts and before I know it I'm watching the whole series again religiously (on season 5 now). Oh man does this show have a way of hooking you in for the long haul, whether you like it or not. In my case I have mixed feelings because while I enjoy the ride as much as the next fan, and I think the show touches on a lot of interesting themes in a refreshing way, I think it's really regrettable that Hank the pig ends up being the most sympathetic character - even seeming like a hero, as purposefully contrasted with the disgraceful neo-nazi villains. I'm sure that's how most people see it too, which I think is not so much because of the characters' respective loyalties as how they're portrayed, regardless of your attitudes on cops and nazis. I see this as a mistake on the part of the writers, in inserting their own political (safe to say conservative) bias into the story's narrative by morally oversimplifying these characters. It makes the show seem less realistic, and for no good reason beyond perpetuating banal stereotypes.
Aug 24, 2022 I agree, usually the biggest issue I have with BB on rewatches is the way they portray the war on drugs as a good thing being fought by the heroes of law enforcement
Aug 26, 2022 Just a thought y'all might be able to put help me with... So, end of Breaking Bad ends with the collapse of everything. Better Call Saul confirms this with Gene's phone call to his secretary (can't remember her name) and her saying everything was found. So, if everything was found then that means the lab was found right? So does that mean Lalo's and Howard's bodies were found?
Aug 26, 2022 The lab was found on BB after Gus died, Hank and co are shown in it. Highly unlikely they found those 2 bodies under a shitload of cement tho and in the BCS finale everyone is still under the impression Howard killed himself, so no
