Dec 12, 2024 I don't get what's happening there. Do they have like trackers on em or something making them live avatars in the metaverse? Bc I would think they're just doing the performances not being seen whilst the audience watch a video, but they're rapping as if they're being seen still, the way they're moving n s---, as if that's being transferred live into the metaverse?, how?
Dec 12, 2024 Song isn’t even bad just not as good as it could have been. He’s flowing with decent lyrics. No choppy a--- robot flow
Dec 12, 2024 Also why do all of Dre’s music recently have to be mastered and mixed so loud. Like Jesus Christ, I swear he trying to bust my AirPods. also after a few listens I have to say em was flowing. But it would have been better on a different beat. I like the layering towards the end, Shady popping out again. 6.5/ 10.
Dec 12, 2024 Dres current production is a bit like eminems current production. I get it, we beg people to innovate, but them trying to incorporate trap elements and modern styling, they're not particularly good at it. Same with dres voice. We want you do to do the classic voice, and do the classic beats. Plenty of guys doing trap beats and rattling hit hats (and way better). By being old school you're being different. Its like the original version of premonition without the trap beat from 2011 or whenever it was, stop forcing the sound
Dec 12, 2024 and while we're at it the condom on the album cover also means he's more cautious now and it's all a big double entendre snoop's blunt shaped brain isn't coming up with that and it was lazy thinking just like the album
Dec 12, 2024 I had a friend who played too much with that and it ended badly. our friendship I mean, I don't know if he's still doing that.
Dec 12, 2024 I also lost a lot of friends after using my fleshlight. I guess it doesn’t help that I got the word F L E S H L I G H T tatted across my forehead
Dec 12, 2024 Now Where’s The Rubbers? Who’s Got The Rubbers? Crack a Bottle, then Fack your Mothers At McDonald’s with my Brothers Ask the cashier for her Number I got Condoms, She got Condiments f--- a compliment, and f--- the janitor… b----!
Dec 12, 2024 @Disorderly Progress >I actually like the Revenge verse haha. Song is not great but I like the verse. maybe i was a little harsh i actually liked the vocal fx on this song and how playful he was on parts like “stabbed you in it, stabbed you in it, stabbed you in it,” “atm atrium” etc. not a bad verse but not exactly speedom or medicine man either >Oh, Straight from the Lab. Yeah fax. Yeah 'Bully' def meant for it, Em said himself he was gonna open the album with it. That woulda been a fire opener. And made so much sense bc he had so much heat about it at the time, the fued n fall out over the racist tapes, Benzino, Ja Rule, so to just kick off with that masterpiece of a diss/psychological fkn untanglement of them/musical fkn choir-rap-song... it has such a big flow to it. Can't believe he wasted that just bc it leaked. i can’t say enough about this song. it’s so theatrical and melodic, to me this song is the absolute peak of his musicality before the drugs took over and started making him lose his grasp on good what good sonics are. yes he raps more energetically on twia till i collapse etc but there’s sumn about this song, stimulate also, that almost transcend rap and enter a new genre >And yeah... true @ homage. It is kinda cool, like, it's a cool device the listing s--- in a way for him to just like, list of 100 ppl who influenced him, bc he knows so many, and so much rap, he's like to rap what Tarantino is to film - in how QT has an encyclopedic knowledge of film and directors n s--- too. The greatest study everything, good and bad. this is so true. did you see charlie and the chocolate factory (2005)? there’s a montage at the beginning where christopher lee sends willy out on his own and he goes and studies all the different types of chocolate from around the world, trying them, taking notes on the tastes and ingredients and flavors and etc. this is how i picture em as a kid studying these great lyricists and i think it’s amazing that he tries to inspire others to do the same. even if it is largely lost on this generation >Yeah TDOSS right after TES woulda been so dope and made so much sense. Like, imagine that was his discog... 1. SSLP 2. MMLP 3. TES 4. TDOSS 5. RELAPSE 1 & 2 What's your stance on Relpase btw? Do you like it? I love it. honestly i’d add recovery and maybe half a dozen songs from the lp2 era in there, skip the rest and nothin of value would be lost and his discography would be much more well respected. my thoughts on relapse are complicated lol. when it dropped i was just beside myself with happiness that there was a new eminem album. the singles were an adventure of their own. crack a bottle was great but only one verse. but that intro is so hype. he made it the lead single because of the leak which shows he didn’t learn much from the encore leaks but that’s whatever. we made you is essentially just lose it 2 so people would remember who he is. not much there to discuss lyrically but the hook and the birthday cake line are cute. 3am is one of the most lyrically dense songs ever written and criminally underrated. old time’s sake was cool to hear dre rapping with em again but again not much there lyrically. beautiful is, well, beautiful :’). he wrote most of that in rehab and it’s a very emotional portrait of a tortured artist at a very difficult point in his life. as for the album itself, i was really not a fan of the accents. doubling down on the triumph/koolo concept was a bit strange to me. to this end insane and underground are my fav tracks sonically even tho deja vu shared a lot of previously unknown information with us and songs like medicine ball and stay wide awake feature insanely complicated rhyme schemes. my mom was a very cute very coy way to remind people not to approach deb. all in all it was more encore dna than eminem show dna but at least it was a new album. refill is also a really strange excursion. forever, along with drop the world and no love were dmg control after what happened with the more than a game soundtrack and that’s a skip aside from em’s (goat) verse. buffalo bill is one of my fav songs ever and i still play that in rotation. the elevator hook is consistently voted one of his best and music box is absolutely haunting. i could listen to the taking my ball beat forever but if i never heard the lyrics again it’d be 2 soon. my darling is in my top 5 but careful what you wish for almost seems like an addendum to my darling. just blaze said em went into their relapse 2 sessions and started rapping fly away in the accent ala ridaz og and told him to knock it tf off and that’s what started recovery. best advice anyone ever told him >With 'Encore' too I noticed, a lot of people forget the concept bc he so loosely threads it @ killing the audience, then himself. But he's had this idea in his head for ages, and I was thinking, if you look at MTBMB & TDOSS, they kind of carry out the 'Encore' concept between them @ MTBMB being = killing the audience/other rappers, metaphorically, but it's all about killing others (even directly @ Stepdad etc.), then TDOSS = k--- himself/Shady. Incidentally, how would you order/have Encore? If you could. I'd leave some of the SFTL tracks off personally. Doesn't need to be so long. I know that's still 3 love songs but... Love You More & Crazy in Love I think are genuinely good songs, music, and add to the album, and compliment 'Puke' well, so that's like a little segment of romance/woman hate, followed/contrasted with love for Hailie, so it's a nice flip, then I'd have to keep one shot 2 shot just for the concept tie-in... Then Encore almost perfect final track, but lil touch of Ricky Tick and what he says as the final line is just perfect actual closing lines. And I know some say not to batch 'themes' of songs together, but I think it works quite well that way most of the time. Cause with the above order, you have like... lil personal s---/disses batched together with Evil Deeds-Like Toy Soldiers, then political s--- with Mosh & We As Americans, then Puke-Mockingbird = lil woman-hate+hailie love segment (which is what he did on 97 bonnie & clyde @ showed his hate for Kim + love for Hailie at once, he said, he's forever contrasting these two things) > then ends off with a few conceptual and thematic tie-ins to wrap it up. mine would be, following em’s descriptions of the original version - 1 - We As Americans 2 - Bully 3 - Evil Deeds 4 - Monkey See Monkey Do 5 - Never Enough 6 - Yellow Brick Road 7 - Like Toy Soldiers 8 - Mosh 9 - Love You More 10 - Crazy in Love 11 - Mockingbird 12 - Ricky Ticky Toc 13 - Come On In 14 - Doe Rae Me 15 - Can-I-b---- 16 - One Shot 2 Shot 17 - Final Thought (skit) 18 - Encore >I wouldn't give any version of Encore a 10/10 as you said, bc the caliber of rapping and song concepts and music still is a drop from previous I think, but, I'd give the above version like a 7.5-8/10. Gotta slap a 5 on the version he gave us though. I would call the above version a 10 because comparing it to anythin from any other rapper is laughable and i think em is right that this version is better than relapse although i think that’s an extremely unpopular opinion even if it is the artist’s opinion. but i wouldn’t argue with your assessment of the retail version
Dec 12, 2024 People ain’t gonna like this flow but it’s aight Cadence over the drums matches perfectly, like it or not
Dec 12, 2024 I always say people have a problem as soon as they hear the choppy flow regardless of how he does it, but to me that's a nice cadence I remember when I was thirteen searching for how to get-- my revenge on a world that hurt me unfortunately in this verse I think it gets too repetitive and it's boring but it's not bad everytime he does it just because he isn't flowing like he did in Renaissance.