Kendrick Lamar now that bad blood is #1

Started by WPG, May 28, 2015, in Kendrick Lamar Add to Reading List

  1. Peter Parker
    Posts: 3,388
    Likes: 5,925
    Joined: Mar 27, 2011

    Peter Parker your boy

    May 28, 2015
    It's seems like a collection of songs with no real sequence at some points. Many of these songs are amazing but it's kinda random, and the skits don't offer that much. The structure on CD/MBDTF and Yeezus (actually one of the album's strongest points) is better imo.
     
    1
    Fire Squad likes this.
    1
    Fire Squad likes this.
    Apr 18, 2024
  2. lil uzi vert stan
    Posts: 7,755
    Likes: 19,756
    Joined: Feb 15, 2011

    May 28, 2015
    since when is self mythology in rap a bad thing? two of the biggest names in rap call themselves hova and yeezus, etc.

    its like @WPG's complaint about kendrick's issues with women. i don't disagree what he says is there, im just not seeing why, inherently, its a neg.
    if we discounted everyone ego driven rapper with antiquated views on women, then we'd be stuck with art rap
     
    1
    DKC likes this.
    1
    DKC likes this.
    Apr 18, 2024
  3. WPG
    Posts: 11,861
    Likes: 22,505
    Joined: Feb 15, 2011

    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    May 28, 2015
    whooooaaaaaaaaa. hold the f--- on. no one is saying that self-mythologizing is bad. we're saying that awkwardly chopping up a tupac interview in service of that end is tasteless.
     
    0 0
    Apr 18, 2024
  4. Young Sinatra
    Posts: 3,970
    Likes: 4,254
    Joined: Dec 22, 2014

    Young Sinatra I've moved, my new account is "Pato". Follow me!

    May 28, 2015
    "He is putting a 2Pac audio interview on his album crine Kendrick a loser :insertsmilie"

    It's so easy to type those words and try to ignore the context of the track
     
    0 0
    Apr 18, 2024
  5. Fire Squad
    Posts: 7,544
    Likes: 21,013
    Joined: Dec 23, 2014

    Fire Squad Boss Don Biggavel

    May 28, 2015
    I see, truthfully the skits never really bothered me but that is a fair criticism. LR was like a nice prelude to what was coming to an even more grandiose project like MBDTF in hindsight.
     
    1
    Peter Parker likes this.
    1
    Peter Parker likes this.
    Apr 18, 2024
  6. Swizz
    Posts: 3,363
    Likes: 10,127
    Joined: Feb 15, 2011

    May 28, 2015
    u right it is
     
    1
    lil uzi vert stan likes this.
    1
    lil uzi vert stan likes this.
    Apr 18, 2024
  7. SWERVO
    Posts: 29,046
    Likes: 55,347
    Joined: Mar 26, 2011

    SWERVO big cuntry's alias

    May 28, 2015
    so edgy
     
    1
    Gerald likes this.
    1
    Gerald likes this.
    Apr 18, 2024
  8. Maximus
    Posts: 10,507
    Likes: 16,614
    Joined: May 15, 2015

    Maximus Skeppy

    May 28, 2015
    in the end they are brilliant albums in their own feils so its d--- hard to compare them.
    if you prefer pop over hip hop or vice versa, your choice is already made.
     
    0 0
    Apr 18, 2024
  9. PoolShark
    Posts: 33
    Likes: 24
    Joined: Mar 13, 2015

    May 28, 2015
    Is there a version of only Kendrick rapping out there. I'll be grateful to you for the rest of my life.
     
    0 0
    Apr 18, 2024
  10. WPG
    Posts: 11,861
    Likes: 22,505
    Joined: Feb 15, 2011

    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    May 28, 2015
    this is insane. i prefer hip-hop to pop. that doesn't mean i'd listen to j. cole over michael jackson.
     
    0 0
    Apr 18, 2024
  11. Medici
    Posts: 726
    Likes: 739
    Joined: Nov 29, 2014
    Location: Ohio

    Medici comin' for the top dollah

    May 28, 2015
    I don't think execution of TPAB was poor I think he took his audience for idiots and felt the need to spell out simple s--- like 5 year olds. In that regard his execution was near perfect.
     
    Apr 18, 2024
  12. Narsh
    Posts: 40,221
    Likes: 46,520
    Joined: Jun 11, 2011

    May 29, 2015
    im too scared to make a post like this

    but for real, i think TBTB was made with this mindset to some extent, no? @anyone
     
    3
    Gerald, Swizz and Loyalty like this.
    3
    Gerald, Swizz and Loyalty like this.
    Apr 18, 2024
  13. Medici
    Posts: 726
    Likes: 739
    Joined: Nov 29, 2014
    Location: Ohio

    Medici comin' for the top dollah

    May 29, 2015
    Well yeah he had to yell three times at you that he was the biggest hypocrite of 2015 to make sure you understood his last couplet. If that's not spoon feeding...
     
    3
    Gerald, Swizz and Loyalty like this.
    3
    Gerald, Swizz and Loyalty like this.
    Apr 18, 2024
  14. Joshua Smoses
    Posts: 647
    Likes: 753
    Joined: Nov 23, 2014

    Joshua Smoses Pink fur, looking like Cam

    May 29, 2015
    There's a lot of poor execution on Kendrick's part besides just the lack of subtlety in the writing tho.
     
    0 0
    Apr 18, 2024
  15. Medici
    Posts: 726
    Likes: 739
    Joined: Nov 29, 2014
    Location: Ohio

    Medici comin' for the top dollah

    May 29, 2015
    I was speaking only on the lyric subtlety aspect. I don't agree with you and your use of the word "a lot".
     
    1
    Narsh likes this.
    1
    Narsh likes this.
    Apr 18, 2024
  16. Narsh
    Posts: 40,221
    Likes: 46,520
    Joined: Jun 11, 2011

    May 29, 2015
    go on (no sarcasm)
     
    0 0
    Apr 18, 2024
  17. Joshua Smoses
    Posts: 647
    Likes: 753
    Joined: Nov 23, 2014

    Joshua Smoses Pink fur, looking like Cam

    May 29, 2015
    I wasn't trying to minimize the "hit-you-over-the-head-with-it" writing, so much as trying to say that's not the only aspect where Kendrick stumbles. I think a lot of his attempts to cover all genres of quote on quote "black music" stumble. I like King Kunta quite a bit (my second favorite track after TBTB ) but even with that great production work behind him Kendrick just never really sounds... funky enough to match it. Which doesn't really bring that specific song down too much for me, but it's much worse on other parts of the album.

    Not to mention that unlike GKMC, there are very few actual SONGS here. The album comes across more as a string of moments (some of which are brilliant like Snoop Dogg's bit on institutionalized, but most of which aren't) and the actual songs are hard to find. King Kunta and TBTB are maybe the only two tracks that I think work as actual songs, whereas with GKMC you still had thematic and narrative progression but most every track was memorable and worked on its own.

    And on a more subjective note, I think Kendrick's overall straight-faced seriousness ruins tracks like the For Free interlude, which is technically impressive but comes across as awkward due to his lack of a sense of humor (THIS DIK AINT FUHREEE).
     
    0 0
    Apr 18, 2024
  18. Narsh
    Posts: 40,221
    Likes: 46,520
    Joined: Jun 11, 2011

    May 29, 2015
    I think a lot of what you're saying applies to the album as a whole but you're misrepresenting some parts..kendrick doesnt have that gr8 of a sense of humor, especially on TPAB, but for free is definitely one of the better moments m8. the skit at the start and just how elastic he makes his rhyming. its done in a tongue in cheek manner for sure. i dont find it awkward.

    Also think the comment about "no real tracks" on here sounds good...and can definitely be backed up by citing a few moments that only work brilliantly in the album (u and i for example), but I wouldnt be so dismissive about Wesley's Theory. Or Institutionalized. Both are up there with some of his best work.

    then King Kunta and TBTB as you said.

    not to mention Momma gets SEVERELY overlooked. I think as people start being more critical of the album, Momma will get the shine it deserves. It was completely overlooked initially, and now seems to be just dismissed.

    It's a good song. and the last verse is great.


    i think the main problem with TPAB is that its messy at its core, and has people on both ends of the spectrum trying to generalize and place it in context. "best album of all time" vs "worst album by a "good-to-great" artist" rofl

    its neither. its a good album. id still say great. but it has a lot of problems worth addressing for sure
     
    0 0
    Apr 18, 2024
  19. Fitz
    Posts: 668
    Likes: 412
    Joined: Apr 14, 2011
    Location: Fall River MA

    Jun 3, 2015
    This is so true.

    This is the equivalent of Eminem using 2Pac's vocals to shoutout G Unit and Shady records all throughout the 2Pac Resurrection soundtrack and Loyal To the Game. Absolutely bs.
     
    1
    WPG likes this.
    1
    WPG likes this.
    Apr 18, 2024
  20. int
    Posts: 560
    Likes: 471
    Joined: Jan 17, 2015

    int

    Jun 3, 2015
    I agree, that's weird
     
    1
    WPG likes this.
    1
    WPG likes this.
    Apr 18, 2024