Dec 22, 2014

lol@csw talking about other people getting mad.
we're enjoying watching you desperately flail to defend the indefensible and getting angry that people don't love Eminem as much as you do. no one else is mad, kid

 

Dec 22, 2014

literally none of that is true
need to edit
seriously, you're either severely emotionally damaged thinking you have this much of an effect on people on the internet, or you're a painfully bad troll and need to be beat within an inch of your life with a b&hammer you won't see coming until your immature annoying a--- is gone

@mm: not everyone thinks on fire and survival and stiw are s--- bro some really do appreciate all aspects of songs that don't get a lot of love from rappityrapheads when em isn't necessarily talking to them in the first place

 

Dec 22, 2014

People who don't consider survival or stiw as s--- songs... wow they shouldnt be allowed to talk about music at all. Just keep that opinion to yourself.

 

Dec 22, 2014

wow is right

 

Dec 22, 2014

I dont get the hate for On Fire? One of my fav tracks off the album. Has some great lyrics, chorus, and beat? Tbh a 5/5 song.

 

Dec 22, 2014

Gonna add my two sense about Not Afraid... Not one of the best songs on the album, has a good message, good song, has some corny lines, but then again, when has Eminem made a self-empowering song and says he will help peoeple? It was a new thing for him.

 

Dec 22, 2014

Nobody is talking about the reasons or message of the song, which is not bad.
Are you sure IT agrees with that?

People are 'harsh' because of the execution of it.
He had to relearn all motor skills. every bit of 'execution' on recovery is less than two years old. i factor that into my rating

Don't you think the lines swizz and immortal mentioned (as well as some others) are cringe worthy? Recovery has those kind of lines all over it
I think many of the lines you're referring to are satire of rappers who say cringe worthy things thinking they're the s---, on top of metaphors, on top of him responding to every critic he's had since he was eleven, on top of the song's story, on top of between the lines messages to stans
And I think the phrase cringe worthy is cringe worthy
And I think IT is trolling, and that swizz' opinion on eminem in 2014 is about as relevant as james gandolfini's

but NA is definetely one of the worst songs because of that imo
As you say, your opinion

If you want to make a case for Recovery, there are other songs that can 'defend' it more. I don't think it is a bad album at all, but some songs bring it down a lot.
I'm just defending the songs people are criticizing here, in the appreciation thread
I could write a whole book about recovery's most widely praised material
Many authors already have

And I said that Eminem has been average, not that every song he has made since his return is average. He has shyt songs like On Fire, Won't Back Down, Survival, Stronger Than I Was and many more
"s---", lel, all of those songs have specific essages that pretty obviously go over a lot of people's heads. be specific and i'll elaborate
dude two of those tracks were parts of major movie and video game launches
stiw has double and triple entendres in every single line
on fire is marshall's tongue in cheek as he describes it attitude turned to the max

but also a lot of good/great songs (you mentioned a few good songs from shadyxv yourself)
*nods*

Which makes him, overall, average to me.
You failed probstat didn't you

Especially when you compare it to his first 3 (amazing) albums. That Eminem is in my top 3 easily, but some of the awfull things he has done after that it's a shame really
It's not a shame to anyone who has read the way i am and understands his outlook on s--- or is even vaguely familiar with what dude has been through for that matter

 

Dec 22, 2014

"what the dude has been through" isn't a reason to defend bad music. if you're grading music on a curve because Marshall has had such a tough life, you're beyond a Stan. But I have heard you say that we should understand FACK in the context of how messed up he was at the time.
And we do. We get that. But that doesn't change the fact that it is a terrible song with no redeeming qualities.
Maybe Not Afraid was an important song to Eminem on a personal, emotional level. Maybe it represents a key turning point in his overcoming addiction and learning to have a positive outlook on life. That doesn't make it a good song, though.

 

Dec 22, 2014

who are you?

 

Dec 22, 2014

the way some of you present your opinions as fact, especially in response to facts, is nothing short of astonishing

 

Dec 22, 2014

i'm kinda glad this is what happened when someone tried to post an appreciation thread

this has been eye opening

 

Dec 22, 2014

starnizzy's mentally stunted little cousin, it looks like

edit:

 

Dec 22, 2014

Relapse had better execution and came out a year earlier.
Factor that, b----.

 

Dec 22, 2014

just to be clear when you say better execution you mean excruciatingly, excruciatingly textbook structuring and alignment right?

 

Dec 22, 2014

more like Delivery/Flow that doesn't sound forced.

 

Dec 22, 2014

how can i converse with anyone who thinks a good song and a bad song can't be the opposite to someone else