Recovery vs Ye

Started by Michael Myers, Jun 3, 2018, in Music Add to Reading List

Recovery vs Ye

  1. Recovery

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  2. Ye

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  1. Lucy
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    Lucy #1

    Jun 3, 2018
    kanyes mom n dad gettin married today. w8 lol they arent cus his dads a deadshit and his moms dead lol
     
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  2. aquaberryares
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    aquaberryares one time I made sex

    Jun 3, 2018
    U ever make a thread like this again I'll block u
     
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  3. Bourbon Ben
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    Bourbon Ben Mad pooper

    Jun 3, 2018
    are u guys f---in kidding me
     
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  4. lil uzi vert stan
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    Jun 3, 2018
    So, not trying to be a d-ck, but are you a fan of Kanye? Like you know who he is. He absolutely tries to stir the pot. And I’m not making this up, it’s not a matter of “faggy behavior” or whatever - for someone as prominent as Kanye.... who has based his career on refracting black culture in Multiple ways, to be speaking so glibly about race relations — that generates waves. In this case, not the good kind. It’s like when he samples strange fruit on yeezus. It was him challenging sacred cows from the civil rights movement. In that case, it worked.

    So w yeezus, his music was purposefully provocative. And here, with ye, the fact it doesn’t answer or rly address the questions he purposefully raised through his public baiting..... that’s a huge let down. And makes the music even weaker than it already is.
     
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  5. Sahara
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    Jun 3, 2018
    He didn't mean slavery was a choice back then.

    "Of course I know that slaves did not get shackled and put on a boat by free will. My point is for us to have stayed in that position even though the numbers were on our side means that we were mentally enslaved. We can’t be mentally imprisoned for another 400 years. We need free thought now. Even the statement was an example of free thought. It was just an idea."

    He's already clarified that when people were physically enslaved it wasn't a choice. He just wants people to be more of a free spirit and less controlled/mentally enslaved. He wants people to not see themselves as victims as much.

    Similar idea to what this Kendrick line expresses...

    While you mothafuckas waiting, I be off the slave ship
    Building pyramids, writing my own hieroglyphs


    When it's put like this... is it such a bad/insensitive thing? Because I'm pretty sure that's what he was trying to express. It's rooted in empowerment of one's self. He has good intentions.
     
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  6. Michael Myers
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    Michael Myers Moderator

    Jun 3, 2018
    U ever block me and I'll ban you

    from my heart
     
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  7. KanYeezy99
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    KanYeezy99 STICK AND MOVE THEN I SKRT SKRT SKRT

    Jun 3, 2018
    lol nice try m8! just spreading that Aussie joy you clearly lack! Steve Irwin is a real ripper aye?
     
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  8. Lucy
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    Lucy #1

    Jun 3, 2018
    to clarify kanye's slavery comments, i think it's a take on the victim complex/mentality and i fully agree that s--- needs to go. A university conducted a heap of experiments to test peoples motivations and s---. one of the tests for example was putting dogs in square containment areas with a fence small enough for them to climb over and escape. one day they turned all the electricity in the fences on so the dogs would get a shock if they tried to escape for the first week whenever a dog tried to escape it got shocked and would stop, after a week and while the dogs were sleeping they turned the electricity off. they basically had to stop the experiment because all the dogs never tried to escape after being shocked a couple of times. that and a couple other experiments they did made them deduce that it's easier for someone mentally to revert and sit on a victim complex or feel helpless, rather than try and change things.
     
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  9. Do D
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    Do D ex-noga

    Jun 3, 2018
    i would've said Ye off the top but after extensive thinking this is actually harder than I thought

    i'm a bigger eminem fan and recovery is my least favorite album of his (revival doesn't even count) but I'd say what recovery lacks in production, mixing and filler, ye lacks in direction and content

    all in all this is actually harder than i thought it'd be but I'd have to go with Recovery for what it's worth
     
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  10. Michael Myers
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    I have literally read about this experiment during my psychology class, the part about depression
     
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  11. Zebedee
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    Jun 3, 2018
    Is the one that deals with like 3 different subjects and is called like “dog something something”
     
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  12. Lucy
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    Lucy #1

    Jun 3, 2018
    pretty sure, don't fully remember it. but it was like the dog experiment made them do similar experiments on humans that were less "inhumane" which led to the deduction. (don't want people thinking i assume people's behaviors are equivalents to a dogs)
     
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  13. Lucy
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    Lucy #1

    Jun 3, 2018
    yeah pretty sure it's related to depression/psychology/motivation
     
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  14. Michael Myers
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    Jun 3, 2018
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learned_helplessness
     
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  15. Boos
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    Jun 3, 2018
    This place would be the only place on the entire planet to be comparing the two albums
     
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  16. GawDEDEDE
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    Jun 3, 2018
    Ye destroys that garbage f---ing album
     
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  17. DontKnow
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    Jun 3, 2018
    Recovery is solid yet, but not perfect, still an awesome album. 8.5/10
     
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  18. KingZ
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    Jun 3, 2018
    Just relisten to TLOP cuz at the time I gave it a personal 7/10. And after relistening its WAYYYY better than Ye. I actually really enjoyed it except for the panda part.

    So what does that make Ye...

    Did I underestimate TLOP or is Ye making it appear better than it was?
     
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  19. Sav Stanfield
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    Jun 4, 2018
    Cutting Recovery down to 7 songs might make for an interesting comparison, but as it stands Yes is leagues better than Recovery, in full form.
     
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  20. Zeugma
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    Zeugma thugger thugger my brother

    Jun 4, 2018
    Recovery has both better and worse songs than any song of ye, so it depends on how you rank albums really
     
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