Should Police Officers Be Punished For Instigating Situations?

Started by Enigma, Jun 1, 2017, in Life Add to Reading List

Should Police Officers Be Punished For Instigating Situations?

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  1. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    Jun 1, 2017
    So my friend shared this video the other day:



    He basically posted this saying while he's not a huge fan of police officers today, he thought this guy totally deserved to get his a--- kicked. While I could see where he was coming from -- the guy was being a disrespectful a------ -- police officers are suppose to be trained to deescalate situations like this. When their on duty, their main concern should be public safety and clearly this officer was not making public safety his main priority. He instead allowed this guy to get under his skin and continuously exchanged curse words with him and even challenged him to fight.

    Essentially this led to my friend and I debating whether police officers should be punished for instigating situations like depicted in the video. Personally, if these were two regular guys arguing and they got into a fight, I wouldn't feel bad for the other dude. However, since one of them is a police officer he should be held to a higher standard than ordinary citizens. We expect more from our police officers because they are granted legal authority over us. Therefore, conduct like this is 100% unacceptable. The officer is instigating a situation that already has a lot of tension and is even challenging a citizens to fight him, knowing d--- well if he lays a hand on him, he's going to jail. The officer is putting public safety at risk by doing this.
     
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  2. reservoirGod
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    Jun 1, 2017
    Cop needs to be fired. Police department should be sued for keeping this guy employed when it's obvious this is what he does... He isn't serving and protecting.
     
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  3. Final
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    Final

    Jun 1, 2017
    I think meeting the quota for speeding tickets is a bigger issue

    I don't know the context of this video and obviously instigating police officers should be punished because they need to show restraint but the cop was clearly called to the scene and this guy is being a smart a---... the cop is being a d-ck too but if the guy would stfu there would be no "argument". You really have to be the stupidest guy on the block to sit and attempt to argue with a cop that was called to a "crime scene" that you are directly involved with.

    All this video showed me is 2 idiots talking s--- to eachother
     
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  4. reservoirGod
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    Jun 1, 2017
    It shows an assault committed by the police officer as well.
     
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  5. attila
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    Jun 1, 2017
    Seems like he is there to increase the situation rather then resolving, pushing and cursing at the citizen. Should have his badge revoked.
     
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    Jun 1, 2017
    lmao who gave this man a badge

    "whicho scary a---":currydead: he argues like a 14 y/o ghetto girl on a bus
     
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  7. Michael Myers
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    Jun 2, 2017
    In general, yes of course de-escalating is the main concern but there is also a line that needs to be drawn. Sure you have be able to ignore it but at some point you have to say stop and tell them its enough.

    People who think they can say and do anything needs to get theit a--- kicked.

    However a cop who is not able to at least try to handle it in a normal way, is not capable to do the job.

    But yeah as I said before, mainly because of dumbass americans wanting to have guns legal for every dumb f--- walking the streets the police and how they police/civilians act against eachtother is so different in my country.
     
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  8. Michael Myers
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    Jun 2, 2017
    But lmaooo at the discussion. What was it even about? @Enigma what was his goal here?

    One thing that is learned is dumb discussions are the silliest thing u can do. When u are right just say that and do whatever you wanted to, or just drop it.

    Oh I dont feel bad for that moron in the video but I do think the cop was being a huge idiot
     
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  9. Jacuzzi
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    Jun 2, 2017
    That's just f----- up. Glad he at least told the other officer not to arrest him and that they kept it personal, bet the dude would've gotten some years for that somehow.
     
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  10. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    Jun 2, 2017
    Basically he shared the video saying he was glad that the cop kicked his a--- and didn't feel bad. I disagreed and said the policing of this offficer was horrendous and that quite frankly, it doesn't matter if the other guy is being rude, police officers are suppose to be trained to stay calm and deescalate situations. This officer clearly didn't do that. That's a very common issue with the police force in the states today is that you often have cops escalating situations because they get angry rather than deescalating and often times they don't get in trouble for it.
     
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    Jun 2, 2017
    that f---ing s--- disgusts me

    that's a 25 yr old man pounding a teenager officer should be in jail but he gets a free pass
     
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  12. Charlie Work
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    Jun 2, 2017
    Reforming cop culture is up there with world peace in terms of probability at this point. h---, we see cops getting killed over racial tension (not a lot btw), and the response by some is to institute tougher laws for violence against police officers. Like imprisoning people and making it impossible to discipline/expel bad cops isn't the root of the problem.
     
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  13. Groovy Tony
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    Jun 2, 2017
    Of course they need to be punished. Integrity should be one of the most important qualities a officer should have
     
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  14. Michael Myers
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    Jun 2, 2017
    Getting angry is not smart. I mean to an extent. People forget that cops are still humans. However they are trained not to let clowns get to them.

    If people go too far, just arrest them and take them away, don't argue. People should respect the police and if they don't , and talking (not arguing, talking) doesn't work just draw a line.

    What this cop did was silly and idiotic
     
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  15. Michael Myers
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    Jun 2, 2017
    @Enigma I meant what was the goal of the cop and the other man, sorry wasn't really clear on that
     
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  16. SWERVO
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    Jun 2, 2017
    f--- police
     
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  17. hustleandcuss
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    Jun 2, 2017
    Yes and No. They should 100% be trained in de-escalation, like the way they are in the UK. If the department doesn't train them that way, it's hard to make a case for punishment when it's considered 'acceptable' behaviour. But yes, ideally they should never instigate.
     
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  18. Michael Myers
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    Jun 2, 2017
    Huge difference is that in the Us they should always be prepared for people having a gun, the way police approaches civilians in europe is very different bc of that
     
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  19. OJ Some Pulp
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    Jun 2, 2017
    The officer responded to a call and arrives to being bitched at. Officer did no wrong here. And I hate all the new nonsense cops do. He's not in the wrong here at all. Much respect. Lot of officers would instigate something to take someone in. He wasn't the instigator here.
     
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  20. Michael Myers
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    Wrong or not I do think he got carried away. Which was silly. I do agree that people get way too sensitive about this subject and defend criminals or tough guys way too much.
     
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