Dec 24, 2015 Maybe people are talking about Minneapolis, I don't know anything about that and I didn't read the thread carefully either. You 100% understand that better than I do. However, I do think the actions in LA yesterday were done maliciously for no purpose other than to f--- s--- up for people going somewhere for the holidays. That's what really irks me. What they did just really serves no purpose to what they are trying to accomplish. I'm trying to understand and I am compassionate to people who may need help or a push in the right direction, but not like this. Shutting down a freeway and spray painting it is illegal and grossly disturbs the public, I wouldn't call that peaceful. This is off topic, but serves BLM in Chicago... People should be mad at Rahm Emmanuel and demanding his resignation. He did nothing but react when he found out people who be pissed about something that happened over a year ago. That guy is a piece of s--- and a horrible leader for that city.
Dec 24, 2015 I think you have the wrong idea on cops though Cops serve the government. Cops ARE the government the police force is a government branch and they enforce the laws of the government Now of course governments make acts such as murder, assault, theft and r--- etc illegal and it's the police's job to protect the population from these things but that's because it's the law which they are sworn to uphold But whatever law you break, such as speaking out against or criticising the government (which isn't illegal in the west I know) then the police will be out to get you. Even if you are right and your reason is a just one, you broke the law and the police are there to protect the government and uphold the law, not you Tl;dr cops don't exist to protect you
Dec 25, 2015 It's always the same s---. They're a terrorist group if they do something you disagree with, and they're peaceful, respectable protesters if they do something you support. They totally have the right to protest like this, and quite frankly, the most important protests always involve places with high volumes of people. What pisses me off is the "we can do no wrong" mentality that many of the supporters spout. What's even worse, is the constant narrative that if you disagree with their actions, you're actually a racist monster.
Dec 25, 2015 oh yeah? in the thread about black lives matters protesters, i'm the first one to bring up race? cool
Dec 25, 2015 You suggested that those angry in this thread are upset because it's not "convenient for white people". You're not just bringing up race. You're accusing others of having a racial preference.
Dec 25, 2015 as if it's a huge leap to suggest that those who prioritize ease of getting from the terminal to the parking lot over murderous police departments don't have a bit of a "racial preference"
Dec 25, 2015 Literally no one here is saying that. I think most people here, along with most Americans in general, think that the killing of innocent black Americans is a tragedy. But posters here also (perhaps correctly), fail to see how the tactic of occupying an airport helps solve the problem. They also find it difficult to side with an organization who's protests often lead to instances of violent confrontations Again, this problem has multiple angles to it, and there is no real guilt-free party here. Most people are NOT content with how things are going, but that's really not up to the everyday people, and that doesn't mean every day people are racist. Following your logic, what couldn't these protesters do that you wouldn't use the excuse of "murderous police departments" to justify?
Dec 25, 2015 I hate getting into these discussions because there's usually no progress made, and people don't budge on their ideas, but f--- it. The fact is, blacks are right in their anger and frustrations towards police, but their execution is totally wrong and not helping. What's jumpstarted their "cause" is the fact that people can record these acts on their cell phones and display them on social media, so thank God for that. Anyways, one side of me understands why people are protesting by shutting down highways, but this is NOT going to work in resolving the issue. I totally understand the motivation behind it, but as some have said, the protesters need to start reaching out and networking and creating allies in their cause. It obviously shouldn't have to be said in 2015/16, but there is a prejudice towards blacks by police. Sure, there are instances where other races and whites are dealing with similar instances, but blacks definitely have it worse, and they need to be protected. HOWEVER They need to realize that this is NOT going to help their cause, by making enemies of whites or police. I understand the rage, the desperation and everything, but they are not going to get change by acting irrational. Shutting down highways, or destroying their own cities does NOT help them, it just creates more anger from the racists, or even people who are neutral to their cause. They're either throwing gasoline on the fire of bigots, or they're creating a barrier to people who are potential supporters. The way the civil rights movement made progress was by gaining the sympathy of Congress through peaceful demonstrations and exposures. Was there help by Malcolm X and the Black Panthers, who used more radical ways of persuasion? Sure. But, what truly helped was when things were being televised and exposed that neutral parties saw as wrong and inhumane. Right now? People apart of the movement are taking a more radical approach. As I said, do I understand it? Obviously. However, it's not going to change anything. All they're doing is pissing off people during the holidays, when they need to focus on bringing in support for their cause. Now, are police innocent in this? Lol f--- no. Police should be the ones going into their communities and finding ways to better protect and serve, and make their neighborhoods a safer and more comfortable place. Also, I'm not going to pretend that all communities are innocent, but police should be doing this, as difficult as it sounds. They are the enforcers, and it's their job to make a change in their environment. As nauseating as it sounds for the "black lives matter" movement, they need a different approach, that's more approachable and less dividing. They are acting WAY too confrontational, and it's off putting to neutral people. This movement needs to be more unifying than separate. It needs to drop the racial tone, and adopt the argument for retraining of police, more relationship building between police and communities, and surveillance to protect citizens AND police. That should be the focus. The motivation of racial injustices are JUSTIFIED, but the way they're going to get the change they want is by making it a unified stance against police. I think it's sad because most black people feel like their voices aren't being heard, and how frustrated they are. They feel they need to show everyone how upset it makes them. Which, sure, they are totally justified in feeling that. However, as f----- up as it sounds, anger is not how you're going to gain many supporters. Anyways, that's just my two cents. I've seen my friends wrongly accused of crimes, and harassed by police, and I've been harassed by association, for no reason.
