Jan 2, 2018 I hate the fans who bitched about Relapse. Easily the most replay value of all of his post hiatus albums. Actually had a loose concept and felt like an actual f---ing album with returning skits from his old albums and everything. Then because people complained we never got Relapse 2 and instead got Recovery which isn’t bad but didn’t age nearly as well as it should have. Then everyone still bitched so on his last two albums we got a cluttered mess of all of his styles because he tries pleasing everyone now. Relapse and Recovery may not be anyone’s favorite Em albums but at least they felt like complete albums.
Jan 2, 2018 In my opinion on why he released this album, he probably wanted to come back as Shady (cause fans mostly enjoy him) & Shady was a persona who mostly thrives on dark content & insane story telling, & for the majority of Relapse it had a dark vibe to it, dark story telling on Same Song & Dance etc, & the accent worked with the songs to make the listener draw more attention to the song to make a more horrifying sound to it, & everybody loves it (well at least for me) when he talks about crazy insane s---. & since he also hasn’t had an album out in that 3/4 year gap, he wanted to show the people Shady still exist.
Jan 2, 2018 He made Relapse because he wanted to. If you listen to the interviews at the time, Em sounded genuinely happy. He's a bit of a corny loser in real life it appears, and he enjoyed every second recording Relapse. You can hear it in the music. The reactions he got shook this insecure man to his core. Shame. I'd rather him be weird and alienating than a pathetic, pandering snowflake. Relapse is the most thematically rich album of his career. The way the character relapsing plays off the artist recovering is great. He clearly got a little too deep into it. No wonder it got so bizarre when the guy recorded over 100 songs, stretching the concept to breaking point. Deja Vu remains his best post-comeback song and one of his best overall.
Jan 2, 2018 But Embase, he still makes cohesive sounds and albums. Revival was very theme based and most of the songs have a similar sound. Majority of album is pop. Throws in Believe, Offended, and Untouchable. Years later you will realize what I'm saying. Eminem had a clear vision with Revival and went with it.
Jan 2, 2018 I always said Relapse was a good album and represents Eminem's life from a historical standpoint. We want to know what was going on in the time he was on drugs. We got a good taste of that with songs like Dejavu. But @EminemBase contradicts himself when he says the album is more cohesive. Why? Because Crack A Bottle sounds nothing like the other songs. We Made You doesn't either. I'm not sure Beautiful sounds like them either, although I do like it on there. You have to realize that you're creating a double standard.
Jan 2, 2018 Crack a Bottle sounds about right, despite being a Detox demo. We Made You fits fine. They're all clearly from the same period. Only Beautiful stands out, and it was supposed to.
Jan 2, 2018 Yeah, Beautiful was the only song on it not produced by Dre and it shows. It still feels like it fits on the album though.
Jan 2, 2018 Wait...are you guys saying that there are no skits on revival? I haven’t even looked at the track list. What the f--- is the album then? What did he revive?
Jan 2, 2018 He hasn’t made music like that at all??? Plus talking about killing his ex wife and raping his mom...
Jan 3, 2018 well first of all Amityville is nothing like Relapse at all, and second of all yeah he had said messed up stuff before but only like a line here or there, never an actual horrocore track
Jan 3, 2018 I don't contradict myself bro. Because I am well known for going on and on about how all the tracks after Deja Vu ruin the album for me. But how does that mean 85% of the album is not cohesive? There's still a sound and a style which follows right the way through the album, bar a few tracks. That's a lot different than almost NONE of the f---ing album making sense. There's no contradiction there. One is mostly cohesive, with a couple of flaws, the other one is mostly flawed with a couple of cohesive moments. Total opposites.
Jan 3, 2018 No, this is not true. Walk on Water is slow, piano ballad; Believe & Chloraseptic sound trap, Untouchable is half rap-rock... River is mainstream Top 40 pop-rap, Remind Me is 80s sampling rap-rock, Framed is horrorcore, Offended is like nothing else at all on the album. The album is all over the place. There is no vision. Eminem tried to please every sector of his fanbase, he said it himself. That's not a vision. That's just desperate compromise.
Jan 3, 2018 Ha ha. So now you're saying Relapse is MOSTLY cohesive? It seems like you can't make up your mind. Either it's cohesive or it isn't. Now that I proved to you that even Relapse has it's flaws, you are trying to tell me that you already said that songs after Dejavu ruin the album for you. With Revival, you're basically saying all songs have to sound 100 percent the same or it's not cohesive. There can't even be the slightest diversion in musical style, they all have to be the same exact genre, have the same beat, and have no difference in rhythm. Wanna know what else I find confusing? You made your own Revival trackless and you included Chloraspectic and Heat. You said that it could have been a classic. But even your classic had different sounds and ideas.
Jan 3, 2018 You're a moron, lol. I've been saying for like 8 years that songs after Deja Vu ruined it for me. That's why, because up until that point the album is amazingly cohesive. You didn't prove s--- to me you idiot, I've been saying that for nearly a decade, evidenced by about 10,000 posts online from me. Of course an album can be mostly f---ing cohesive. When did I ever say it's black or white. If Illmatic had a f---ing future track stuck at the end... it would ruin the final album and it wouldn't be 100% cohesive, but does that automatically mean the album up to that point wasn't? Of course not! Stop being dumb. And no I'm not saying all sounds have to sound 100% the same; does "My Mom" sound 100% the same as "Stay Wide Awake"? Nope. Does "Cleaning Out My Closet" sound 100% the same as "Square Dance"? Nope. But the tracks feel connected, due to them being made by the same producer for the same project; the style can be similar, or the production can, or both, or they can just by chance happen to sound 'right' together. "Framed" does not in any world fit with "Tragic Endings", it's blatantly ridiculous. Stop trying to convince me to find something cohesive that I do not. I accept YOUR view on the album. You accept mine and we can go our separate ways. Bye.
