Wrestling Official New Japan Pro-Wrestling Thread (& Indies...)

Started by Big Dangerous, Jun 25, 2017, in Sports Add to Reading List

  1. Big Dangerous
    Posts: 23,832
    Likes: 46,185
    Joined: Jun 30, 2015

    Big Dangerous World Heavyweight Champion

    Aug 17, 2017
    So the last two shows this year are Destruction and King of Pro Wrestling. Leading up to both there will be "Road to (event name)" shows that'll be composed of multi man matches featuring the people who will be facing eachother, similar to how they did during the G1.

    The actual shows should have some multiman matches but in general there will be a lot of single matches and title matches. For example, EVIL will almost definitely get a shot at Okada's title on one of these shows, since he beat him in the G1. Juice beat Omega...maybe Omega will defend the US title against him. Elgin as well. SZJ has gotten the best of Tanahashi several times recently-- expect a program between those two for the Intercontinental belt. Fale and Ishii will probably be in action against Naito, since they defeated him.

    And of course you have the Jrs, which will have KUSHIDA probably defending against Desperado.
     
    1
    Raziel likes this.
    1
    Raziel likes this.
    Mar 29, 2024
  2. Raziel
    Posts: 3,454
    Likes: 4,093
    Joined: Feb 16, 2011

    Raziel Ice like Paul Wall but I can't take mine out

    Aug 17, 2017
    I had one major pet peeve with omega/okada 3
    I heard Kenny tell okada to reverse his pikedriver a handful of times, up until that moment I hadn't heard any form of communication between any wrestler other than trash talk. I was beginning to think they were doing all of this s--- off the top . Small gripe but it really bothers me
     
    1
    Big Dangerous likes this.
    1
    Big Dangerous likes this.
    Mar 29, 2024
  3. Raziel
    Posts: 3,454
    Likes: 4,093
    Joined: Feb 16, 2011

    Raziel Ice like Paul Wall but I can't take mine out

    Aug 17, 2017
    What other promotions are worth getting into? @Changeling @Gloku @Pinhead @AdultishGambino
     
    0 0
    Mar 29, 2024
  4. Sign Language
    Posts: 11,696
    Likes: 24,587
    Joined: Jan 2, 2015
    Location: Screwston

    Sign Language We miss you Screw

    Aug 17, 2017
    I'm here too ya kno

    And Ring of Honor does some good stuff. As does Lucha Underground. PWG gets a lot of love but it ain't my cup of tea.
     
    1
    Raziel likes this.
    1
    Raziel likes this.
    Mar 29, 2024
  5. Big Dangerous
    Posts: 23,832
    Likes: 46,185
    Joined: Jun 30, 2015

    Big Dangerous World Heavyweight Champion

    Aug 17, 2017
    Lucha Underground is a nice show. Good story and characters.

    Season 1 is phenomenal
     
    2
    Raziel and Sign Language like this.
    2
    Raziel and Sign Language like this.
    Mar 29, 2024
  6. tomroe93
    Posts: 6,037
    Likes: 6,529
    Joined: Feb 15, 2011

    Aug 17, 2017
    I'm a huge fan of PWG. Gotta throw in a shameless plug for my local company, Cape Championship Wrestling, as well. You can catch them on FiteTV
     
    2
    Sign Language and Raziel like this.
    2
    Sign Language and Raziel like this.
    Mar 29, 2024
  7. Big Dangerous
    Posts: 23,832
    Likes: 46,185
    Joined: Jun 30, 2015

    Big Dangerous World Heavyweight Champion

    Aug 17, 2017
    @Raziel are you interested in older Japanese non-NJPW wrestling like AJW or AJPW? I know of an online archive with most of the important matches from back then. That's how I watched the likes of Kobashi, Misawa, & Manami Toyota.
     
    2
    Sign Language and Raziel like this.
    2
    Sign Language and Raziel like this.
    Mar 29, 2024
  8. Gloku
    Posts: 1,254
    Likes: 1,861
    Joined: Oct 2, 2016
    Location: Vancouver, BC

    Gloku FuckOnYaBabyMama

    Aug 17, 2017
    Pro Wrestling NOAH, PWG, ROH and Lucha Underground but you need to watch LU with an open mind it's not a traditional wrestling promotion they treat it more like a TV program.
     
    3
    Pinhead, Sign Language and Raziel like this.
    3
    Pinhead, Sign Language and Raziel like this.
    Mar 29, 2024
  9. Raziel
    Posts: 3,454
    Likes: 4,093
    Joined: Feb 16, 2011

    Raziel Ice like Paul Wall but I can't take mine out

    Aug 17, 2017
    I'm open to anything good. My bad @Sign Language
     
    Big Dangerous and Sign Language like this.
    Mar 29, 2024
  10. Sign Language
    Posts: 11,696
    Likes: 24,587
    Joined: Jan 2, 2015
    Location: Screwston

    Sign Language We miss you Screw

    Aug 17, 2017
    I was just f---in with ya fam.
     
    1
    Raziel likes this.
    1
    Raziel likes this.
    Mar 29, 2024
  11. Sign Language
    Posts: 11,696
    Likes: 24,587
    Joined: Jan 2, 2015
    Location: Screwston

    Sign Language We miss you Screw

    Aug 17, 2017
    [​IMG]
    :lmaooo::lmaooo::lmaooo:
     
    4
    Raziel, Gloku, Alpha and 1 other person like this.
    4
    Raziel, Gloku, Alpha and 1 other person like this.
    Mar 29, 2024
  12. Raziel
    Posts: 3,454
    Likes: 4,093
    Joined: Feb 16, 2011

    Raziel Ice like Paul Wall but I can't take mine out

    Aug 17, 2017
    :sweatt:
     
    1
    Sign Language likes this.
    1
    Sign Language likes this.
    Mar 29, 2024
  13. Big Dangerous
    Posts: 23,832
    Likes: 46,185
    Joined: Jun 30, 2015

    Big Dangerous World Heavyweight Champion

    Aug 17, 2017
    @Raziel here is the realhero archive for literally all puroresu (Japanese wrestling) not regularly viewable in America....I'm talking Stardom, Dragon gate, a dozens of others I'm sure none of us here have even heard about. This has stuff decades old and in pretty sure new stuff too.

    https://drive.google.com/drive/mobile/folders/0B5rK95X3mRiiSDNvTnQ0aUhWODg?usp=drive_web

    Here is an archive entirely dedicated to AJPW (featuring the 90s, with the likes of Kenta Kobashi and Mitsuharu Misawa-- both of which have the most 5* matches awarded by Dave Meltzer, over 40 5* matches combined).

    https://drive.google.com/drive/mobile/folders/0Bwpbsa8C2iSmZXJuaE44bm40eHc?usp=sharing


    I recommend going to cagematch.com, it's a wrestling database. When you find the profile of ANY wrestler, you can view a match guide which lists ALL of their matches with appropriate dates, event names, and Meltzer star ratings. Go there and sort by match rating, and decide on any match you want to watch.

    Using those two archives you can pinpoint the year and event the matches took place, and stream them.

    My recommendations:

    Kenta Kobashi and Misawa had a legendary string of matches in 97, 98, & 99 in AJPW, and one in 2003 in NOAH. The 2003 NOAH match is my pick for greatest wresting match ever.



    Other than that I've also watched a lot of All Japan Women's wrestling. Many people that have been watching since the 80s and 90s site Manami Toyota as the greatest women's wrestler (and one of the best wrestlers period) of all time. My favorite WWE women's match is Natalya Vs Charlotte in NXT...I never thought a woman could have a 5* match. I was wrong. Use her cage match profile to find matches with Aja Kong, Kyoko Inoue, Toshiyo Yamada, and Akira Hokuto. They are LEGENDARY.

    I specifically recommend these:

    Toyota & Toshiyo Yamada vs Dynamite Kensai & Mayumi Ozaki 12/6/1993 (MY FAVORITE TAG MATCH EVER)
    Toyota vs Aja Kong 11/20/1994
    Toyota vs Akira Hokuto 9/2/1995



    I had a blast catching up on all of this stuff over the past year.

    If you find yourself liking the style of these matches and want more, I can recommend you a ton of other matches.

    Sorry if it's information overload
     
    5
    Alpha, Pinhead, Raziel and 2 others like this.
    5
    Alpha, Pinhead, Raziel and 2 others like this.
    Mar 29, 2024
  14. Big Dangerous
    Posts: 23,832
    Likes: 46,185
    Joined: Jun 30, 2015

    Big Dangerous World Heavyweight Champion

    Aug 17, 2017
    I'll just tag @NJPWBros if you're interested in essential classic puro featuring legendary wrestlers like Kawada, Misawa, Aja Kong, Toyota and the like, check the post above.
     
    2
    Alpha and Sign Language like this.
    2
    Alpha and Sign Language like this.
    Mar 29, 2024
  15. Big Dangerous
    Posts: 23,832
    Likes: 46,185
    Joined: Jun 30, 2015

    Big Dangerous World Heavyweight Champion

    Aug 17, 2017
    I went hard in that s--- :sweatt:
     
    3
    Alpha, Raziel and Sign Language like this.
    3
    Alpha, Raziel and Sign Language like this.
    Mar 29, 2024
  16. Sign Language
    Posts: 11,696
    Likes: 24,587
    Joined: Jan 2, 2015
    Location: Screwston

    Sign Language We miss you Screw

    Aug 17, 2017
    Indeed you did.

    We blessed! :blessed:
     
    3
    Raziel, Alpha and Big Dangerous like this.
    3
    Raziel, Alpha and Big Dangerous like this.
    Mar 29, 2024
  17. Big Dangerous
    Posts: 23,832
    Likes: 46,185
    Joined: Jun 30, 2015

    Big Dangerous World Heavyweight Champion

    Aug 17, 2017
    I kilt that s---...

    And really I know it's not for everyone and it likely won't be. But I implore any of ya'll if you're interested to try it out. Those matches can all be found in those archives and on YouTube for free and I really really enjoyed them. Maybe you will too
     
    2
    Raziel and Sign Language like this.
    2
    Raziel and Sign Language like this.
    Mar 29, 2024
  18. Pinhead
    Posts: 2,577
    Likes: 2,363
    Joined: Nov 24, 2014
    Location: Whitecourt

    Aug 17, 2017
    I like the 5+ rating. It'd be different if it was for cinema or something, but wrestling is limited enough in how stories are told that the mold can be broken, whereas in film the benchmark has been set so often in so many different time periods that discerning between multiple levels of perfect would just be absurd. Dave also doesn't re-watch old matches, so a 5 from him in 2000 naturally wouldn't be judged the same way with the added context of everything that's happened since.

    Wrestling has, at least in North America, been adhering to the expansion of a very old school, classical style of working that could only be analyzed on a critical level since the 70's/80's. When we got into the 90's, that's when the new age of sequenced, athletic type wrestling started to take over. All Japan, HBK/Bret (his size helped), the WCW cruiserweights, ECW at the time were all part of pushing for the more performance based wrestling that we've seen take over on the indies since the early 2000's, and now pretty much everywhere as we went into the 2010's. WWE is still WWE, but we know that the best guys there can transcend their limitations.

    We're at a point now where these guys - Ospreay/Omega/Okada/Naito/Tanahashi/etc - have a complete grasp of the fundamentals but at the same time are breaking down all the things in wrestling that you're told to "not do" when you make it to the big leagues. They're completely changing the game, in/out of the ring, and the people in charge of them realize that and are open to that change.
     
    Mar 29, 2024
  19. Pinhead
    Posts: 2,577
    Likes: 2,363
    Joined: Nov 24, 2014
    Location: Whitecourt

    Aug 17, 2017
    My GOAT tag match

     
    1
    Big Dangerous likes this.
    1
    Big Dangerous likes this.
    Mar 29, 2024
  20. Big Dangerous
    Posts: 23,832
    Likes: 46,185
    Joined: Jun 30, 2015

    Big Dangerous World Heavyweight Champion

    Aug 17, 2017
    This has gotta be one of my favorite matches EVER. Just rewatched and it's still A++


    also here is a gif of waifu Manami in action :banderas:
    [​IMG]
     
    2
    Pinhead and Sign Language like this.
    2
    Pinhead and Sign Language like this.
    Mar 29, 2024