Aug 18, 2017

Rarely listened to the album but jay handled this well imo

 

Aug 18, 2017

nah, Kanye ranting about Jay on stage happened almost a year ago

 

Aug 19, 2017

kanye calling someone else a diva lol

 

Aug 18, 2017

Hov dealt with his own therapeutic issues on 4:44, starting with “k--- Jay Z,” which was quickly taken as a diss towards Kanye West. Now, Hov says it was far from a shot at his “little brother.”

“It’s not even about Kanye,” he said. “It really isn’t. It’s just his name is there, right? Because it’s just honest, it’s truthful, what happened. But I’m saying, the whole point is, you got hurt because this guy was talking about you on a stage but what really hurt me was, you can’t bring my kids and my wife into it. Kanye’s my little brother. He’s talked about me a hundred times. He made a song called ‘Big Brother.’ We’ve gotten past bigger issues. But you brought my family into it and now it’s a problem with me. Now, it’s a real, real problem.

“He knows it’s a problem because me and him would have been talked about it, we would have been resolved our issue, but he knows he crossed the line,” he added. “I know him. He knows. Not only does he have to know, I know he knows because we never let this much space go between one of our disagreements and we’ve had many. That’s part of who we are. That’s what I like about him. He’s an honest person. He’s open and he’ll say things and he’s wrong a lot of times but we’ll confront it. But that’s not the point. The point is, I was getting to the point where I said, ‘You got hurt by that.’ That’s nothing. You can’t diss somebody saying you got hurt. That’s the softest diss of all time. ‘You got hurt ’cause you did cool by ‘Ye.’ I dissed myself, actually. What are you talking about, you sucka-a--- ni**a? That’s the softest s--- of all time.”

Still, he acknowledged that Kanye’s onstage rant about Beyoncé and about how their children don’t play together rubbed him the wrong way. “Don’t talk about anyone’s kid onstage,” he added. “It’s too much energy. You give room for anybody to comment. Our children are already in this place where they are affected by our celebrity. Don’t go doing something that allows people to pit us against each other and talk about my child or even his child. Don’t do that.”

He then admitted that he also might have spilled too much information on the track. “The $20 million thing shouldn’t have been said,” he noted. “Sometimes, you go too far. That’s a personal thing between him and I. He knows and I know. But nothing was off the table so I’m not even gonna say it was a mistake. Nothing was off the table for this album.”

When asked if their beef is also related to their reported TIDAL-based legal issues, Hov said that was not the case. “I don’t care about none of that,” he said. “It’s Kanye’s decision and has always been his decision. I’ve never held anybody back in my life from doing anything. You can’t name one time I hold people back. From what? I don’t do that. It’s not who I am. It’s nothing about business.”

However, he says there is a chance that their bad blood will end soon. “It requires a real conversation and we’ll have it,” he said. “We’ll have it soon. I’m sure we’ll have it.”

 

Aug 19, 2017

wait you think kanye heard 4:44 before it came out? i'm pretty positive that's not the case

 

Aug 18, 2017

Was back in October on the last show of the Saint Pablo tour before he canceled the rest of the tour

 

Aug 18, 2017

There's no mention of Kanye ever hearing this album before it came out. They haven't talked in forever. He just went on a rant because he's Kanye and says stupid s---