Jay-Z Black Thought vs JAY-Z

Started by Xdx, Sep 6, 2017, in Music Add to Reading List

  1. Trackz
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    Both are great, but great rappers normally have a great project to refer to. There's great Roots' projects, but it's not a Black Thought project. I say normally because, Jay Electronica....
     
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    Uhm ... yeah I guess so? The difference between being a hip hop artist and a rapper imo is the music so you can say Eminem is a better rapper than Ye but Ye is the better artist imo. I think Jay makes the best hip hop music, and a big part of that is his technical skills but when it comes to purely estimating technical skills I think thought is superior, although I think Jay makes better music than the roots, you feel me?
     
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    Sep 7, 2017
    Oh nevermind I see what you're saying, no I disagree. It really depends on what you mean by rapper
     
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    Sep 7, 2017
    But not only is this distinction super ambiguous, there's also really no point in making it. U dont listen to ye and say ur listening to art lol it's all rap. Rapping is art.

    Idk just tired of hearing kanye (etc) isn't a good rapper but is a great artist. No, kanye is a great rapper because of how good he is at making rap music.
     
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    i think people use the word artist for the wrong meaning , dont use it for the guy that makes music that sounds better to you or some s--- , is not the correct meaning
     
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    btw my answer to this is jay z , jay in my top 5 , bt is no 7

    even if black thought is probably better than jay bar for bar , jay z is a lot more charismatic rapper , his mic presence is incredible and like everyone knows has one of the best signature flow oat
    there are not many departments where jay lacks , perhaps storytelling , besides that he is very complete
    bt may have a stale delivery at times but he is good in storytelling for example , very poetic i may say

    bt the better spitter but i still prefer jay for his entire persona and also jay during the rd era could spit some ludicrous wordplay
     
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    There is no super ambiguous distinction its very clear and there is a reason to make it. Kanye can't outrap Eminem but he makes better music, so when someone asks me who can rap better I'm always gonna say Thought or Em. People constantly leave kanye out these arguments and if you put him in you look stupid, f--- that kanye is the GOAT hip hop artist but he's nowhere near the goat rapper.
     
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    fam this is wrong
     
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    I don't want to hear your lose yourself s---, yes good song but he has nothing on kanye stop lying to urself
     
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    bro no , i just wanted to say every rapper is an artist , cuz you like the way one guy sounds more than the other doesnt make him the better artist or because someone has better production like kanye does

    artist doesnt mean that
     
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    Tbh it's hard to decide who's the better artist here. The Roots make artistic masterpieces with their every release while Jay sometimes falls short in that department. Though, to be fair, Jay did it all on his own. If we're talking about lyricism, that's also a pretty difficult department. RD era Jay was pretty much untouchable. But at the same time Black Thought has been consistently incredible throughout his career as a lyricist. Honestly, in terms of technical skill, Black Thought slightly edges out Jay. In terms of discography, it's The Roots. They're both pretty incredible. Jay is #5 on my list and Black Thought is #2
     
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    Em isnt a better rapper than kanye in any way. And ur reason for making the distinction is still pointless. It's the equivalent of me saying u a good ball player cus u can run super fast even tho u have no handles, can't s---t, pass, and play trash defense. Ur not a good ball player u just run fast. Go run track or sumthing u fa----
     
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    you savage this morning bruh lol.

    El Plus Member tho lol.
     
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    There's plenty of rappers who can spit they a--- off but can't make a good song, that doesn't mean they're a bad rapper it just means they ain't good at making music.

    You seem to think all rappers make music, thats just not true and if you don't think Em could rap laps round Ye you're just wrong lol
     
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    you cant really say that that with confiedence lol...... i know it not cool to like em but that highly subjective...
     
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    I hope he doesn't think that. Go look at a good rap battle, and you'll see some dope a--- rappers. 90% of them can't make s--- for music though.
     
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    U just dismissed everything I said tho. Literally.
    What's em gone do battle rap kanye lmao who cares
     
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    No that's not what that means, if I was to say yachty or someone was goat it would be like that. He makes good music arguably but he can't rap.

    thats what I'm saying
     
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    Btw wtf are we discussing? Lol Jay z and black thought make music last time I checked. My point stands that there's no point in making that distinction.
     
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    You're point doesn't stand at all because you asked me why and I told you technical ability and artistry are too different things and I said I think Jay is less technically superior and you still asking me the same motherfucking question. If you don't understand I can no longer help you.
     
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