Jay-Z The JAY-Z vs Nas debate is argued incorrectly

Started by Xdx, Sep 25, 2017, in Music Add to Reading List

  1. 1999
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    You telling me Big had better technical ability than em?
     
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    The problem with that is... with rapping you can at least pretend it's objective (which is what you should do when discussing music this way, since what's the point of discussing taste? It'll always end up as the same "it's my opinion bro"). When discussing something as broad as their discographies, you don't get to pretend it's objective.
     
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  3. 1999
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    Vey few people would consider RTD or LAD the best rap album oat
     
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  4. Big Dangerous
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    That's not true at all
     
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  5. volvo
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    That makes no sense.
     
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    RTD can be argued but not LAD
     
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  7. Michael Myers
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    Love the fact that this turned into an eminem debate again lmao
     
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    i think he probably meant tes has overall a more serious tone , the production may add to that too and maybe because yo u dont see the same eminem that was with the i dont give a fk attitude on almost every sslp track
     
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  9. BigTheCac
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    kendrick better artist pac and big at the same d--- time yeah
     
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  10. Caine
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    Without Nas it's entirely possible Jay Z wouldn't have had a successful career, or it would've taken off much later.

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    and drake trash he a ghost writer boy
     
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  12. Xdx
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    I would count LAD as a single album even though it has two discs
     
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  13. 1999
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    Its always in the top albums of all time lists but its rarely looked at as the best Illmatic outshadows it along with the chronic, low end theory and any other album you want to throw in there
     
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    We can get into technical ability (virus brought up poetic devices, entendres of all multiplicative sand s---)

    At the end of the day when I hear a BIG verse that guy is the one who sounds the best on a record imo
     
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    yes it is very true
     
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    I swear all these vs. rapper threads turn into the same discussion on top 5, who’s the goat etc.

    Isn’t there just one thread for that? Because there should be
     
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    I don't really see The chronic and low end theory put over them often, just depends on whose list you're looking at
     
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    I doubt he would use ghostwriters for verses (I might be wrong though). He probably just uses them for hooks which is acceptable
     
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    Of course that's why I explicitly stated three discs
     
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  20. Winter
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    Technicaly ability is meaningless, he was a significantly better writer than Em. He crossed over into territory that Em is still struggling with today. Big could drop tracks like Mo Money Mo Problems or Hypnotize without ever sacrificing his sound and put them next to tracks like n----s Bleed and Long Kiss Goodnight without ever sounding out of place.
     
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