Oct 3, 2017

It's probably not "right" to think of that immediately, but I think most of us do.

When I heard about the Vegas news I thought it was a Muslim at first.
When you hear about a police shooting you usually think it's a white cop/black unarmed suspect before getting the facts.
If there was a serial killer I would assume they were white

People will always have preconceived assumptions when bad s--- happens. I think it's only really "wrong" when you have people talking s--- about a whole race/religion/political party....before getting the facts like this:

 

Oct 3, 2017

just because it wasn't some people flying planes into buildings screaming "allahu akbar" while fox news tells you only brown people can commit terrorism doesn't mean it's not a terroristic act

 

Oct 3, 2017

imma muslim and i do it

not gonna lie

 

Oct 3, 2017

think its completely fine.

a 60 yr old white c---- going off the deep end and killing a bunch of people = r-----

a 20-30 yr old freak inciting terror in western civalization in the name of religion = terrorist

it is much safer to assume a muslim murdering a bunch of people is likely terrorism as opposed to them just having a mental breakdown and going off the deep end. what's more common? a muslim losing his s--- and massacring people? or a muslim terrorist?

 

Oct 3, 2017

Any violent crime can be perceived as terrorism if you look hard enough. If a wife leaves her abusive husband and he shows up at some family gathering with a rifle and shoots up the place, there is ‘terrorism’ involved there but he can’t be legally classified as a terrorist

For a suspect to be a terrorist he needs to commit crime for a political, religious or ideological cause.

You can be a mass murderer without being a terrorist, like the usual school shooters. This isn’t saying that white people can do no wrong, infact school shooters are probably worse because they k--- kids for no particular reason where as terrorists have revenge or payback on their side.

No one is saying white people can do no harm

Someone being a terrorist is a specific legal definition. It’s not arguing semantics. Otherwise rapists are terrorists, abusive husbands, street gangs and literally any other group of people who commit violent crimes.

No one is saying white people can do no harm

McVeigh’s reasoning for the Oklahoma bombing:

"I chose to bomb a federal building because such an action served more purposes than other options. Foremost the bombing was a retaliatory strike; a counter attack for the cumulative raids (and subsequent violence and damage) that federal agents had participated in over the preceding years (including, but not limited to, Waco). From the formation of such units as the FBI's Hostage Rescue and other assault teams amongst federal agencies during the 80s, culminating in the Waco incident, federal actions grew increasingly militaristic and violent, to the point where at Waco, our government - like the Chinese - was deploying tanks against its own citizens“

^ this is terrorism

Aum Shinrikyo’s sarin gas attacks in japan to bring forth their doomsday prophecy and their other attacks against judges and political leaders plotting against them were terrorist attacks


Breivik’s Norway massacre was in response to the left leaning Norwegian government’s push for multi culturalist policies. This was a terrorist it was a far right terrorist


The Paris attackers reason was a response to France’s continuous attacks and airstrikes in Syria. This is terrorism

The Aussie port Arthur killer’s reason was, well, nothing in particular. He is a mass murderer, he not a terrorist


Now that we’ve established that white people, Asians AND Arabs can be terrorists, can we be honest that nowadays if there is a terrorist attack (if we’re going by the legal definition) it will most certainly be a muslim arab because that’s the nature we’re living in atm

However things vary much differently from Europe to the U.S. in the U.S if there’s a mass shooting it is more likely to be the usual white, deranged mass murderer with no specific reasons behind it. You’re much more likely to be killed by a white guy with a gun in the U.S than a muslim extremist


If it’s Europe however it’s the opposite , any mass murder attack nowadays can be pretty much guaranteed to be isis inspired muslims


The Vegas shooting can be called terrorism if you like and it was no doubt mass murder but unless they find out that his motives have some sort of political or cultural or even religious meaning, he is not by definition a terrorist. It doesn’t mean he’s any better than a terrorist but he doesn’t fit the criteria to be called one. It’s not defending or lessening the crime

 

Oct 3, 2017

BUT WHITE PPL DO BAD THINGS TO BEN, WHY DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HIM BEING CALLED A TERRORIST HUHHH EXACTLY YOU RACIST

 

Oct 3, 2017

Why is it that more Muslims 'dramatically misinterpret' your Islam teachings more than every other religion and to much higher degrees?

 

Oct 3, 2017

My brother in law is a bosnian muslim not overly devout he doesn't pray or anything but he doesn't eat pork


he's been butthurt because I told him I doubt the Vegas attack was terrorism (i.e politically/ideologically motivated) because it was some rich white guy, and he does the usual moaning about how if it were a muslim who did it, it would be classified as terrorism right away etc and I was like well ya because numbers don't lie and that seems to be the trend these days

anyway stuff like that and he seems to be offended over it and I told him to stop being a b----. Who's right here? I'm not a some hick muslim hater and I hate american globalism as much as arabs do but I also think we should be able to speak common sense without muslims and the PC crew crying about it??


I mean, Barcelona, London, Manchester, Stockholm, Nice, Brussels, Paris, Madrid, 9/11 just to mention the major attacks in the west, when was a muslim attack in the west NOT terrorism? is it bigoted for your initial reaction during an attack to be that; if muslim/arab = terrorism, if white = disgruntled loser? It's just how it is nowadays. if it happened in the 60s in England everyone would automatically assume it was IRA. It's not about hating muslims it's numbers and common sense


Are we just literally gonna ignore facts for the sake of not offending? In the grand scheme of things, all of this can be traced back western intervention in the arab world. You could even say it's our own fault and we're tasting the karma now. You could take it a step further and say that we're the real 'bad guys'. However that still doesn't change anything I said above