Dec 14, 2017I was gonna try to give this another few listens before writing this, but f--- it, I couldn’t even get through a second spin.
When compared to the rest of the album, it starts out relatively strong—I’m not much of a fan of the music itself, but thematically it sticks to what I’d want from Eminem at this point in his career, which is an introspective look at his place in rap 20 years in and using his celebrity to speak on sociopolitical issues to a wider audience. But as soon as it gets to “River,” the album pretty much entirely falls apart until “Castle.” Other than “Like Home” and a few other moments, that’s 13 poorly sequenced tracks in a row that are mostly irrelevant or poor rehashes of better songs he made 15-20 years ago. I dunno if I’ve ever listened to another album with such an unjustified length.
Do some of these songs have potential in terms of concept? Yeah, but the choppy flow, bad production, bad punchlines, and overall bad song composition ruin them. It’s been said before but I’ll say it again: Eminem doesn’t know how to make a good song anymore. I dunno if I’ve ever listened to a stretch of an album that’s this excruciatingly boring. When he does somewhat succeed at making a song that sounds decent—“Remind Me,” for example, which is one of the places where his flow sounds the most natural and has one of the better rock sample flips—it fails thematically. It’s apparently about Kim (yes, I know he’s not allowed to use her name anymore), but the song just feels like another made up, self-deprecating story about meeting a nameless woman at a bar.
This album is basically The Life of Marshall, in that it’s kind of a haphazard amalgam of his past albums mixed with a little bit of new territory, except it pretty much only draws from all his bad projects and there's no charm to it. When he does take from his pre-hiatus music, it’s mostly in the form of boring retreads. Half the album sounds like Recovery and MMLP2 leftovers (and even Relapse with “Framed”). I’d put money on “Castle” especially being Recovery era…he doesn’t sound like that when he raps anymore. It feels like he started an album focused on politics/his place in rap but only had like five songs that fit the concept, so he panicked and filled it up with tracks that didn’t make the cut from his past albums so he could put it out in this current political climate.
I appreciate that he’s trying to use this platform for good, and like I mentioned before, being political is rarely “cool.” Buried under the sludge is an interesting, important, and maybe even a good album. But as it stands, it’s an absolute mess. Like @Papa Andy mentioned, songs like “Untouchable” just don’t quite feel finished. It feels like the first draft of a song that needs a few more rewrites and mixes. Like, The Life of Pablo feels more refined than this album and Kanye released it literally unfinished and during a mental breakdown.
“Walk on Water,” “Untouchable,” “Castle,” and “Arose” are probably the best four tracks, and they’re the start to an album that had potential, but this is something he should have stewed on for another year or two. Trump’s not going anywhere in the meantime.
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Dec 14, 2017
The extreme vast majority of fans said the only thing they wanted from revival was no rick Rubin or Alex da kid. Or at worst, they each produce one song. What did we get, 75% of an album produced by these 2 s--- producers.
How does no one in Em's circle tell him that he should scrap these songs from the album? Or only keep one, MAYBE two of them. If he wants to make so many rock songs, it would be smarter to just release them as rock concept album. -
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Dec 14, 2017
He writes dozens of fantasy love songs because he has nothing else to talk about end of story -
Dec 14, 2017
agree with almost everything you said. except with respect to 'remind me' --- isnt that the one where he says 'your booty is heavy duty like diarrhea?
like you said, Eminem just doesn't know what sounds good anymore, and he's surrounded by yes men who don't have the balls to tell him. I can't believe this guy is 45 years old and still littering his music with toilet humor. I'm not expecting him to recreate the music he made in his prime, but that doesn't mean he can't put out something good at this stage of his career. Look at Jay with 4:44 or even Dr Dre with Compton.(This ad goes away when signing up) -
Dec 14, 2017
With GTC was really similar and the better song. Don't forget these idiots actually left No Apologies off of TES becsuse that album was already "too dark". But yeah Castle sounds very 2009ish.Poohdini, lil uzi vert stan, Radeem and 1 other person like this. -
Dec 14, 2017
i'm almost tempted to re-listen to the album because maybe I've been too harsh on it and i haven't given it enough of a chance
maybe it'll grow on me
but i'm not gonna subject my ears to thatDKC, sxneighty123, Kon and 1 other person like this.