Mar 26, 2018

I mean, Drake is the biggest rapper out. We're a shade darker than Eminem rn. Getting there.

 

Mar 26, 2018

um yes and he's called Flo-Rida.

 

Mar 26, 2018

Talking about the general public here...obviously there are white people who enjoy hiphop culture (probably several on this website rn), but in general there is still a very real stigma when it comes to white people unabashedly listening to rap music in particularly black artists. This subtle racism is still prevalent even though hip hop is now the most popular genre in the United States for the first time...Even the most popular black artists would have a shockingly low white fanbase in ratio to overall popularity if studies were done. As I said, this is not just a thing of the past-- even in the 2010 decade I point to modern white rap artists like Mackelmore or Logic, who are blowing up and swamping the fame of otherwise moderately successful black artists who have spent years (sometimes decades) churning out well-known music.

Even black artists who supposedly maintain (or at some point maintained) a consistent white fanbase are 99% of the time genre/culture transcending entities and/or those of which who purposely attract the white crowd or appeal to a specific gender. I'm talking about Lil Wayne, Nicki Minaj, Drake. Imagine if Pitbull was black...would white people be so inclined to listen to him so much?

From my experience the black artist is consistently shunned or not taken seriously, sometimes considered no more than a nostalgia act or serving one-off radio song or fun club hit, whereas the white artist will get a pass and attract an actual following from said white person and innately assumed to be a serious artist or given the benefit of the doubt from a non-rap listener, just from this subtle racism that I mentioned. Why is this? Will it ever change?

Obviously more white people probably listen to black artists in big cities but the magnetic attraction of white listeners by white artists hints at a significant phenomena across the entire United States.

Disagree? Thoughts? Experiences you can share?

 

Mar 26, 2018

I agree with OP though, the "I hate rap but I like Eminem/Macklemore/Lil Dicky" crowd is the worst

 

Mar 26, 2018

Fair point actually

 

Jun 6, 2018

Even worse is the "well they shouldn't be allowed to call whites crackers" or "I get offended when someone calls me cracker" crowd

Like u know when someone says that they're racist, severely out of touch with reality, or both

 

Mar 26, 2018

You need new friends

 

Jun 6, 2018

d--- that sucks, my dad taught me to treat every race equally as s--- so it's not racist and that chinks can't drive and are s---

 

Jun 6, 2018

Yea I get that all the time too. "WHY THE f--- DO THEY SAY IT IF IT'S SUCH AN OFFENSIVE WORD TO THEM??? WHAT DO THEY EXPECT?? THERE'S BLACK RACISTS TOO!!!" and i'm just like chilllll......... it's a song man lol.

 

Jun 6, 2018

It was a real collab, it's from his HIStory album

 

Jun 6, 2018

Who gives a f--- about race anymore? You want white people to listen to black artist's music and call it racism when they don't, but shame them publicly for rapping along "n-----"? There is so much hipocrisy I could't read more than a few sentences.

People listen to music they can relate, of course a white soccer mom won't listen to black artists, who rap about murdering, dealing coke and so on. They will however listen to Pulitzer boy Kendrick. Have you seen footage of Kedrick's concerts lately? It's absolutely packed with white folks. So it's mostly not about their skin color, it's about what they rap about and how agressive they sound.

 

Jun 5, 2018

True,

But I think it's more personality and taste driven than people give it credit for.

As in - there's plenty of black people who are big rock fans, for example and who like Eminem (I've known many in my life) and only listen to Eminem in terms of rap. Because he's one that crossed over into their territory, who they've heard and appeals to their sensibilities - as in he makes music whith rock undertones, musically and in attitude.

So I think it's less race related than people try to make it, it's just that obviously... there's A LOT more white people, so this is what you're going to see all the time. So given that we're always seeing white rock fans and s--- like 'I ONLY LISTEN TO EMINEM', it's easy to draw the race conclusion...

But this is also subtle racism towards black people who are also like this and it's actually just taste/exposure driven; implying that all or most black people automatically listen to black artists because they're black lol and racist to white AND black people to suggest a) the majority of white people are inherently racist and their main reason for identifying is race and not so if they are black and that b) black people are also inherently the same towards their own race/they automatically listen to black artists BUT are NOT bias like white people and also listen to whites lol.

(White rock fans also listen to a lot of black rock artists for example. So it's clear it's not about race. It's what they're exposed to and which appeals to their sensibilities).

I think it is much more about taste and who say - rock, or pop fans are exposed to and who actually appeals to their sensibilities - not due to race but due to the music they make; Eminem has always made rock-tinged rap, rock is part of his influence and also with a pop sensibility in the sense of being repetitive and catchy, and he's obviously HUGE so they've heard him and like his music more than other rap they may have heard or not been exposed to. But that's not white people going 'WELL HE'S WHITE SO IMA LISTEN', that's just the fact he appeals to rock and pop sensibilities much more, and there's so many white people that we see them saying this kind of s--- all the time.

But I think there is an extremely low amount of actual people who seriously listen to anybody or exclude listening to people because of their race. That's real racists and if anybody seriously thinks the majority of kids, teens or people period are all deeply racist like that... I think it's a bit silly lol.

You'll find plenty of white rock fans who also 'just listen to 2Pac' as well and think 'all other rap is trash'.

 

Jun 5, 2018

And at the same time not a good look for either...some (out of touch) white people I'm sure look at this vid and use it as proof like oh, that's what happens when we try to mingle into their music


When in reality that's a whole other thing...no one should ever be expected to freely use the n word and saying that and enjoying/listening to rap music is not mutually exclusive

 

Mar 26, 2018

idk I think there's a line between white rap fans and the average white American. The average white guy probably hears more black rappers through virtue of it being the biggest genre in the country, but given the choice most of them will gravitate toward the artists who look like them. Can't think of any other explanation for trash like Macklemore's success.

 

Mar 26, 2018

Or because they're racist

I'm not saying will black rap artists be more listened to by the white person than pop or rock music...but I feel the ratio is drastically weighted incorrectly at the moment and always has been