Jun 3, 2018

Spacebound and GTC >>> anything on Ye so I choose Recovery

 

Jun 3, 2018

lmfao kanye is so trash now hes getting compared to eminem

 

Jun 3, 2018

This.

Ye might be the most forgettable album of all-time. Not very good. Not horrible. But painfully average and completely forgettable. I can't ever see myself revisiting this.


Edit- If I'm not being objective and I'm judging the music by Kanye's past work Ye is f---ing terrible.

 

Jun 3, 2018

yeah pretty sure i am, i am from the ghetto and my taste is pretty specific. pretty much all the "hot s---" critically acclaimed or most discussed albums here are ones i think are s--- boring. Ye/recovery included. i'd say autistic musical taste is probs a good way to describe it cause whenever i hear an album thats getting praised here i just pause it about halfway through and start playing Kevein Gates. every time without fail.

 

Jun 3, 2018

One is a mediocre piece of s--- with no real passion(bar a couple verses) or musical experimentation whatsoever. The songs are all littered with the same s-----y formula, and the production is VERY dated. Not to mention the awful lyrics.

The other, though not as musically appeasing as Kanye’s previous work,is still an authentic piece of work, flowing with creativity added by his favourite musical peers. Every little sound has no doubt been carefully calculated. Again you could make a case for certain sub-par lyrics, but musically, “Ye” is a MUCH better album than Recovery.

 

Jun 3, 2018

Smh of course this forum would vote Recovery

 

Jun 4, 2018

Ye is better than every Eminem album ever

 

Jun 3, 2018

to clarify kanye's slavery comments, i think it's a take on the victim complex/mentality and i fully agree that s--- needs to go. A university conducted a heap of experiments to test peoples motivations and s---. one of the tests for example was putting dogs in square containment areas with a fence small enough for them to climb over and escape. one day they turned all the electricity in the fences on so the dogs would get a shock if they tried to escape for the first week whenever a dog tried to escape it got shocked and would stop, after a week and while the dogs were sleeping they turned the electricity off. they basically had to stop the experiment because all the dogs never tried to escape after being shocked a couple of times. that and a couple other experiments they did made them deduce that it's easier for someone mentally to revert and sit on a victim complex or feel helpless, rather than try and change things.

 

Jun 3, 2018

We can rehash Eminem’s greatest public failings: the triumph fight, fack, the “duck walk” (he was a recovering addict who had broken his back lol but ok)

He has never done anything nearly awful and shameful as calling slavery a choice, babbling about Donald trumps “dragon energy”.

 

Jun 3, 2018

Ye isn't his best work by any means but anyone voting Recovery needs new ears

 

Jun 3, 2018

Everyone should read my original posts for my take. @Michael Myers could quote or link in ur op?

Here’s the gist: Kanye is fraying, it’s obvious. It’s slightly reminiscent of when em was publicly embarrassing himself (both previous innovators known for airing their personal issues in their work, fueled by immense ego...and drugs). Kanye’s run lasted longer granted ..... but this album, and his public meltdown has rly only been seen by the likes of eminem lol. Hence the comparison.

 

Jun 4, 2018

 

Jun 4, 2018

Recovery has both better and worse songs than any song of ye, so it depends on how you rank albums really

 

Jun 3, 2018

Recovery is solid yet, but not perfect, still an awesome album. 8.5/10

 

Jun 3, 2018

He didn't mean slavery was a choice back then.

"Of course I know that slaves did not get shackled and put on a boat by free will. My point is for us to have stayed in that position even though the numbers were on our side means that we were mentally enslaved. We can’t be mentally imprisoned for another 400 years. We need free thought now. Even the statement was an example of free thought. It was just an idea."

He's already clarified that when people were physically enslaved it wasn't a choice. He just wants people to be more of a free spirit and less controlled/mentally enslaved. He wants people to not see themselves as victims as much.

Similar idea to what this Kendrick line expresses...

While you mothafuckas waiting, I be off the slave ship
Building pyramids, writing my own hieroglyphs

When it's put like this... is it such a bad/insensitive thing? Because I'm pretty sure that's what he was trying to express. It's rooted in empowerment of one's self. He has good intentions.

 

Jun 3, 2018

About even to be completely honest which puts things into perspective

I would've never thought of this