Sep 6, 2018 I think there's a HUGE difference: Trump calls legit facts fake news cuz he's a propagandameister. Em is just calling bs on some reviewers he feels are unfair cuz they dont even bother to give credit where credit is due. Reviewers can be overly critical, that much is a fact.
Sep 6, 2018 meh. same happened with Sia and Eminem like 5 yearsago. Nobody cared then and nobody cares now.
Sep 6, 2018 Ya @Big Cuntry ur self loathing stan bias showing. Just bc em whines about ppl hating revival doesn’t make him trump
Sep 6, 2018 Not gonna look for examples but I have seen many references on this forum whenever its brought up.. but just more simple than that Koolo praises the f--- out of the album, everyone praises it Wpg and swizz etc say its bad, more people are like yeah its not that good Like I find it very interesting to read people's views (so hurry up w ur tbt review!) but it will never make me change my opinion of something. People sometimes seem to be scared to say they like or hate something when it isn't backed up by certain posters or reviewers lol
Sep 6, 2018 you're...mis-understood. Nobody cares that they're both weak minded people who succame to some sort of false pressure to try and preserve their public image. I'm sure they both knew exactly what Eminem was like when choosing to collaborate with him and had heard his past music.
Sep 6, 2018 I think I understand now. Being 35 and washed up, Andy can relate to Eminem's plight on the record. Makes perfect sense.
Sep 6, 2018 ^holy s---, this dude is FUROUS i dont take him serious. what a kuk! -- i may... be wrong, but are we sure justin knew he was going to work with eminem when he reocrded with mike wmi. i got the impression they had a session, then mwmi offered and sold the beat, song skeleton to eminem. sounds consistent to other non-skylar grey and em collaborations.
Sep 6, 2018 Publications still have an obligation to apply some sort of rigor and internal consistency to the numerical rating they assign, just as they do with the opinions their writers espouse. If they don’t — and the numbers are assigned randomly with no comparative value — then they should do away with them altogether since they’re by definition meaningless.
Sep 6, 2018 Yeah that's not what I said though. I just said that it's hypocritical. Your deep-seeded and out-of-touch desire for Eminem to be cool again is also showing
Sep 6, 2018 lol nothing about me is deep seeded or out of touch. i think the album is fine, its just not cringe embarrassment. not sure why so many (white, privileged) hhhs refuse to acknowledge! and im sure youve seen the spotify #, em doesnt need me to make him cool lol and guys... i like eminem hypocritical (and petty). like, you do know who eminem is right?
Sep 6, 2018 well the point of a review isn't to make people do a 180 on their opinion or form a full-fledged opinion for them, it's for people to engage with a piece of media. @Zebedee @Papa Alpha Andy i'm not that attached to that comment about the media btw, I just thought it was weird in context of the past two albums. I'm not tryina blow it out of proportion, obviously Trump's fake new s--- is way different.
Sep 6, 2018 I think u should wait for bc's review. I'm positive he isnt just gonna point out the negative like the biased reviews
Sep 6, 2018 I'm walking it back because I'm not that attached to the argument beyond it being an interesting comparison and I started engaging with you and zeb out of stubborn forum-arguing habit. I'd rather walk it back than keep arguing about something I don't care about or really believe in. I'm not that prideful. I know, but you can't call it former-stan self-loathing every time I criticize something lame about eminem anymore than I can call you out of touch any time you say something you like about it. There's plenty I like and plenty I dislike about the album, and I think you're in the same boat.
Sep 6, 2018 it's totally plausible –– and likely in these two cases –– that they sincerely didn't wanna be on songs where eminem was shouting "fa----." it's weird to me that you can't imagine anyone having different preferences or values than your own. i don't think vernon even knew the beat would go to eminem.
Sep 6, 2018 People arguing about em using the word fa---- still. Lol. Except he didn’t actually use it did he?? Wtf!!! Lol. Y’all crazy!!
