Oct 19, 2018

true kamakaze winning another poll & being overated as usual

 

Oct 19, 2018

I did cheat and cut Kami down to 7 songs. Might've replayed TLOP more if I did that.

 

Oct 19, 2018

Oh yeah when em is dropping a great album that’s obv better than that klusterfuk flop is overrated.. funny how no body overrate revival tho...
Kanye fell off its not that big of a deal

 

Oct 19, 2018

goofy trent thinking I won’t call his bluff

 

Oct 19, 2018

Beat his a--- dad!

 

Oct 19, 2018

we wont fight. he'll talk tough bc thats his (actually rly bad lol) gimmick.... but hes not going to boston and certainly doesnt have the guts to "fight" me.

worst/best case: he posts another embarrassing video, then conveniently leaves for a month

 

Oct 19, 2018

Don't even give him a chance to think

 

Oct 19, 2018

Kamikaze is NOT a memorable album. There is nothing on there that would qualify as a great song. It got a lot of credit for a few reasons:

1) it was a lot more focused than Revival, which had sort of a kitchen sink approach
2) it actually sounded like he was trying again
3) he called people out by name. I feel like a lot of Eminem fans secretly hated all the years where he refused to attack anyone personally except Lindsay Lohan and Kevin Federline (as evidence for that - remember how giddy stans got when Em admitted he almost dissed Kanye and Wayne? lol embarrassing)
4) it was released by surprise. Em's always been in love with the dramatic rollout, so a move like this felt like he was setting aside his ego and just letting the music speak for itself

But think about it - how good is it, actually? Are you coming back to that corny Venom song? How about Good Guy (or whatever that horrible "s--- my d-ck" song is)? What is he saying in Normal that he hasn't said a million times before? Doesn't he just sound embarrassing trying to mock Bad and Boujee, two years later? Even something like Stepping Stone, which is genuinely heartfelt and mostly well-written, is musically piss-poor so it lacks replay value

There's no doubt that Kamikaze is a step up from his last record and really, I couldn't fault you for calling it his best since The Eminem Show. But people forget how low that bar is. He hasn't released anything above a 6/10 since 2002. Including Kamikaze.

As for Pablo - I get people's issues with it, I really do. It's long, it's all over the place. It doesn't have the clearly defined vision of the three albums that preceded it. But a lot of these songs are really, really good. The production is uniformly strong. Ultralight Beam and Real Friends are top 10 Kanye contenders. Above all, the album is just really f---ing fun - Famous and Fade and Father Stretch, for example, are more purely enjoyable than anything on Kamikaze.

 

Oct 19, 2018

^real talk

 

Oct 19, 2018

i have lol. its not great but i watched the jimmy kimmel thing as u know....... but i also listen to father john misty!

i dont think so? def think of that as a 2017 song but i could be wrong. but i dont think this point lands though - music parodies certainly do have an expiration date, especially now (hence why weird al has stopped putting out albums) but i think given the context and the fact hes mostly interpolating it ~~worked. or at least wasnt embarrassssssinggggggggggggggggggg

 

Oct 19, 2018

Oh, I don't think anybody could make an argument Kamikaze is good in a traditional sense. It is, however, very interesting and shows some evolution unlike TLOP which just sounds like half baked bs with some gems sprinkled in.

 

Oct 19, 2018

it hurts me to like ur posts.... but in this case, i will

 

Oct 19, 2018

I've seen you try to defend Kamikaze on a content level which I'm definitely against. Em is an embarrassingly underdeveloped manchild who can't write a song about a girl without shrieking at them for being a whor- or sound interested in his own material without calling bloggers slurs. It is more interesting to parse than Kanye's bland vain-MDMA-popper-turned-family-man thing though. If only he'd put the hot takes in his music instead of on TMZ.

 

Oct 19, 2018

Father John Misty is great - I don't grasp the connection, tbh

Wikipedia tells me Bad and Boujee dropped October 28, 2016, to be exact. Either way, calendar aside, I guess we just disagree on whether it worked or not. It didn't really seem to service anything except Em's bitterness that popular rap doesn't sound like he thinks it should sound. He didn't really say anything witty or interesting. It was just sort of the "hey, do you recognize that reference?" smug winking you'd find in a Deadpool movie

 

Oct 19, 2018

Imagine Kanye's Kamikaze where he starts rapping about Donald Trump and Elon Musk being dope and has interludes from Ben Shapiro and Candance Owens and has a song about the jewish problem. Now that would be entertaining.

 

Oct 19, 2018

I was so ready. I guess he'd have to write his own verses again for that though.

 

Oct 19, 2018

So you call trash something you have not heard?

 

Oct 19, 2018

im saying im not above toggling through venom, then shifting gears to gods favorite customer.... (also, lightheartedly, i feel like there's this zero sum mentality percolating in online cultural discussions where, like, if you like THIS that disqualifies you from serious discussion, or something. like ill f--- with kamikaze if the mood**strikes then shift over to mr tillman or whatever)

and yeah, not saying its high art, just dont find it objectionable to the point of embarrassment. (gifs of him being balled out by bruno forthcoming.)