May 4, 2019There will always be a disconnect between older and newer gens. I remember reading an interview with Pharaoh Monch who said he had old heads telling him Organized Konfusion was trash. Old heads used to s--- on Lil Wayne when he came out, 50 Cent went he came out. It'll never end. Yachty and Pump will probably be shi--ing on new rappers in 2030.
I don't think I understood it in 2009 when Jay dropped DOA, but looking back (and as much as I love Hov), the sentiment behind the song sucks. And what did it achieve anyway? Same goes for Em's tirade against mumble rappers imo. I think Jay would have got similar backlash if he dropped DOA (or a modern equivalent) today.
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May 5, 2019
mumble crap sucks. i prefer intelligent rappers like logic and eminem cus theyre not ghetto and use proper grammarFire Squad, Ordinary Joel, Michael Myers and 1 other person like this. -
May 4, 2019
I like real Country..lol nothing against it though, I understand his hustle and it workedTyler F u c k i n g Waves, Jay Zeus, Bizzle and 1 other person like this. -
May 4, 2019
Jay went at autotune. While I kinda agree it was overused it gave us 808&HB, tons of classic weezy verses and lets be real Tpain is a goat. I would also put autotune 2009 rap over most of the new wave right now. Also has to do w age I guess.. but I do like several.
But my point is, jay went at the current wave kinda in the same way eminem did/does in 2018/2019. Obviously eminem is doing it because he's mad at the critics for criticizing him, but still.Tyler F u c k i n g Waves, Lil Squeed, gdot and 1 other person like this. -
May 4, 2019
To be fair rap wasn't as bad in 2009 as it is now, Hip-Hop is on life support these days
The corny s--- that comes out these days isn't for me, but it's all good to each his own, but I'd be lying if I said it isn't garbage
Kids today don't give a d--- about lyrics and it shows. "yOU cAnT tUrN uP tO LyRiCs"Tyler F u c k i n g Waves, Jay Zeus, JEB and 1 other person like this. -
May 5, 2019
Idk how Eminem can go at mumble rap or auto tune when he made Recovery and Revival. Both pop albums, not classic rap. And his no favors verse, campaign speech and more I can’t remember the name of is basically mumble rap. Same with Jay riding the d----s of new autotune rappers in 2009. The older artist are just mad people don’t ride their d-ck anymore in 2019. Rap evolves every few years. Plenty of great trap, rap lyricist in today’s music. If you’re making s--- music now and used to be good, and you can’t handle the truth of what the critics have to say then you shouldn’t be making music anymore.Winter, Michael Myers and Buddha like this. -
May 5, 2019
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May 5, 2019
Old Town Road slander will not be tolerated but I’m going to take this opportunity to say Lil Nas X is taking too long with his releases and it’s getting old real quick. Track already got ran into the ground and he still hasn’t released the music videoOrdinary Joel, Sea Mauville and Michael Myers like this. -
May 4, 2019
Then he drops empire state of mind, run this town and other pop songs on BP3. If that aren't sing alongs I dunno what they are lmao.
Same w Eminem .... 'real rap' - Recovery, Revival.. lol.
Both kinda made up for it with 444 and Kamikazr but still, both were/are hypocritesOrdinary Joel, Buddha and Zeugma like this. -
May 4, 2019
Aside from it being catchy af there's a lot more to it imo.Tyler F u c k i n g Waves, CJ Poe and Bizzle like this. -
May 4, 2019
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May 4, 2019
First of all, this is NOT a contest as in who is better.
This morning I was listening to music and suddenly Jay's DOA came on.
Listening to the lyrics,
'Put your skirts back down'
"I know we facing a recession
But the music y'all making going make it the great depression"
"This ain't a number one record
This is practically assault with a deadly weapon"
And then he makes several comments on other songs (like Put On remix) about the current wave.
Jay went at autotune, eminem went at """mumble rap"""
I honestly can't really remember (also wasn't on a forum back then) how people reacted when Jay did that. Eminem gets both praise and s--- for going against it, how did you feel about Jay in 2009?Ordinary Joel, Tyler F u c k i n g Waves and Ricky like this.