Sign Up / Log In

reply to thread

Thread Tools

Best Posts: Biggest misconceptions in Hip Hop?

  1. rapmusik
    Posts: 18,571
    Likes: 49,247
    Joined: Feb 15, 2011

    rapmusik 4

    Apr 25, 2020
    Blue carpet still a classic
     
    #28
    7
    asvdawg, dkdnfbdjdkdddjdjfvcgfl, Ordinary Joel and 4 others like this.
    7
    asvdawg, dkdnfbdjdkdddjdjfvcgfl, Ordinary Joel and 4 others like this.
    Mar 1, 2026
  2. rapmusik
    Posts: 18,571
    Likes: 49,247
    Joined: Feb 15, 2011

    rapmusik 4

    Apr 25, 2020
    He definitely had a lull at some point. Snoop Lion phase is one I’d like to forget. But he definitely didn’t fall off after Doggystyle. That’s a wack statement
     
    #27
    7
    Ordinary Joel, Fire Squad, DKC and 4 others like this.
    7
    Ordinary Joel, Fire Squad, DKC and 4 others like this.
    Mar 1, 2026
  3. Winter
    Posts: 5,958
    Likes: 13,791
    Joined: Nov 24, 2014

    Winter Super Comfy

    Apr 24, 2020
    Hate the narrative that Snoop fell off after he dropped Doggystyle. His post-Death Row discography, with the exception of maybe Ego Trippin, ranges from good to straight up classic. Your favourite rapper wishes they had Snoop’s longevity.
     
    #21
    6
    Ordinary Joel, Fire Squad, rapmusik and 3 others like this.
    6
    Ordinary Joel, Fire Squad, rapmusik and 3 others like this.
    Mar 1, 2026
  4. Fire Squad
    Posts: 7,551
    Likes: 21,039
    Joined: Dec 23, 2014

    Fire Squad Boss Don Biggavel

    Apr 26, 2020
    Harlem World and his features in Puff’s No Way Out cement his legacy if you ask me! Let alone his legendary flow in Mo Money Mo Problems :banderas:

    Mase was raw but retrospectively intriguing in any of the Children of the Corn cuts, way before he slowed down the flow once he landed on Bad Boy’s doorstep.
     
    #42
    5
    Buddha, Sign Language, DKC and 2 others like this.
    5
    Buddha, Sign Language, DKC and 2 others like this.
    Mar 1, 2026
  5. Fire Squad
    Posts: 7,551
    Likes: 21,039
    Joined: Dec 23, 2014

    Fire Squad Boss Don Biggavel

    Apr 25, 2020
    - Anything associated with “Mumble” Rap (please bury this term) has no place in the genre.

    - Puff & Ma$e were the worst thing to happen to hip-hop.

    - Big L had a flawless catalogue (love him to death tho)
     
    #33
    5
    DKC, Ordinary Joel, RetiredAccount and 2 others like this.
    5
    DKC, Ordinary Joel, RetiredAccount and 2 others like this.
    Mar 1, 2026
  6. lil uzi vert stan
    Posts: 7,755
    Likes: 19,759
    Joined: Feb 15, 2011

    lil uzi vert stan

    Apr 24, 2020
    Agreed - in my humble opinion No Limit era Snoop is a lot of fun if not great.
     
    #22
    5
    Ordinary Joel, Fire Squad, Winter and 2 others like this.
    5
    Ordinary Joel, Fire Squad, Winter and 2 others like this.
    Mar 1, 2026
  7. RetiredAccount
    Posts: 11,791
    Likes: 22,247
    Joined: Nov 28, 2014

    RetiredAccount Big Time Stuntin Like My Daddy

    Apr 24, 2020
    Here are some:
    • 50 Cent fell off after The Massacre (while he will never reach GRODT level, everything post GRODT is of consistent quality)
    • Drake doesn't have a classic (Take Care, NWTS, IYRTITL run is near perfect)
    • Pac > Biggie (Biggie is arguably the most skilled rapper of all time, Pac isn't - even though Pac has great music and made a tremendous social impact - Biggie will always be the better rapper/musician)
    • Lil Wayne being trash post Carter IV (while his post C4 discog is obviously weaker musically, he's become more skillful in many areas, he just needs the focus to piece it all together)
    • Jay-Z lost the Nas beef (I don't care what you think about Ether, look at Jay-Z's career afterwards vs Nas' PS Takeover is the superior diss)

    discuss
     
    #1
    5
    Ordinary Joel, Zeugma, lil uzi vert stan and 2 others like this.
    5
    Ordinary Joel, Zeugma, lil uzi vert stan and 2 others like this.
    Mar 1, 2026
  8. rapmusik
    Posts: 18,571
    Likes: 49,247
    Joined: Feb 15, 2011

    rapmusik 4

    Apr 26, 2020
    song to song though, Wanna Know was f---ing garbage. Back 2 Back might not have been No Vaseline or Ether, but it definitely blows Meek's attempt out of the water.

    but you are right. the ghostwriting has been stuck to him ever since. so that could be a W for Meek. but strictly music, Drake bodied.
     
    #46
    4
    DKC, Buddha, Michael Myers and 1 other person like this.
    4
    DKC, Buddha, Michael Myers and 1 other person like this.
    Mar 1, 2026
  9. Fire Squad
    Posts: 7,551
    Likes: 21,039
    Joined: Dec 23, 2014

    Fire Squad Boss Don Biggavel

    Apr 26, 2020
    Young Cam was a lot of fun, he clearly had that Nasty Nas influence and was unfiltered aggression and imagination.

    I agree, Mase was fantastic but Cam was always from a different cloth. Children of the Corn were all dope, L was a monster, McGruff was great, Bloodshed was gone too soon and Cam & Mase still had their best years ahead of them. They practically changed Harlem’s rap scene forever
     
    #44
    4
    Buddha, Allis Mines, Ordinary Joel and 1 other person like this.
    4
    Buddha, Allis Mines, Ordinary Joel and 1 other person like this.
    Mar 1, 2026
  10. RetiredAccount
    Posts: 11,791
    Likes: 22,247
    Joined: Nov 28, 2014

    RetiredAccount Big Time Stuntin Like My Daddy

    Apr 26, 2020
    quality > quantity
     
    #41
    4
    Buddha, Sign Language, Fire Squad and 1 other person like this.
    4
    Buddha, Sign Language, Fire Squad and 1 other person like this.
    Mar 1, 2026
  11. Michael Myers
    Posts: 46,461
    Likes: 94,395
    Joined: Feb 28, 2011

    Michael Myers Moderator

    Apr 26, 2020
    This x10
     
    #38
    4
    asvdawg, Mikey, Ordinary Joel and 1 other person like this.
    4
    asvdawg, Mikey, Ordinary Joel and 1 other person like this.
    Mar 1, 2026
  12. RetiredAccount
    Posts: 11,791
    Likes: 22,247
    Joined: Nov 28, 2014

    RetiredAccount Big Time Stuntin Like My Daddy

    Apr 25, 2020
    his last two albums have been a1
     
    #29
    4
    Ordinary Joel, Michael Myers, lil uzi vert stan and 1 other person like this.
    4
    Ordinary Joel, Michael Myers, lil uzi vert stan and 1 other person like this.
    Mar 1, 2026
  13. lil uzi vert stan
    Posts: 7,755
    Likes: 19,759
    Joined: Feb 15, 2011

    lil uzi vert stan

    Apr 24, 2020
    its counterintuitve especially given the instinctive mockery he gets from raps self appoiinted tastemakers... and given how big he is. but ya.

    popular rap is sooo diff from ems niche, and his aesthetic is so removed from current trends mostly that its almost like he went from being (cool initially, to) uncool (for much of his comeback) to secretly cool again. the twitter cognescenti wont agree but hey they were wrong about bernie too so fuuuuq emmm
     
    #19
    4
    asvdawg, Ordinary Joel, Oldboy and 1 other person like this.
    4
    asvdawg, Ordinary Joel, Oldboy and 1 other person like this.
    Mar 1, 2026
  14. Oldboy
    Posts: 51,226
    Likes: 160,679
    Joined: Feb 14, 2011

    Oldboy

    Apr 24, 2020
    Also drake dont have classics. He have one good album
     
    #18
    4
    asvdawg, Ordinary Joel, Ricky and 1 other person like this.
    4
    asvdawg, Ordinary Joel, Ricky and 1 other person like this.
    Mar 1, 2026
  15. lil uzi vert stan
    Posts: 7,755
    Likes: 19,759
    Joined: Feb 15, 2011

    lil uzi vert stan

    Apr 24, 2020
    • A lot of revisionist history and bad takes about Eminem’s old and new output - mostly driven by his irritating, rapid stanbase (which isn’t his fault) and him being overexposed (which is ...partly his fault)

    And yeah as charismatic as Pac was , Biggie > him
     
    #11
    4
    Ordinary Joel, rapmusik, dkdnfbdjdkdddjdjfvcgfl and 1 other person like this.
    4
    Ordinary Joel, rapmusik, dkdnfbdjdkdddjdjfvcgfl and 1 other person like this.
    Mar 1, 2026
  16. DKC
    Posts: 23,421
    Likes: 81,890
    Joined: Nov 23, 2014

    DKC shortygonletmecrush

    Apr 24, 2020
    The first half of IYRT is the makings of debatably his best album but the b-side is a wasteland besides Jungle and a couple others imo
     
    #7
    4
    asvdawg, Ordinary Joel, Rodamon and 1 other person like this.
    4
    asvdawg, Ordinary Joel, Rodamon and 1 other person like this.
    Mar 1, 2026
  17. Buddha
    Posts: 3,025
    Likes: 6,032
    Joined: Sep 30, 2016

    Buddha

    Apr 26, 2020
    Cam’ron during children of the corn is legendary. While I really really loved the more cocky arrogant and sometimes goofy Cam’ron that came after, I think he was best during children of the corn. Dude was ferocious. I love those old verses so much. It really sucks so many of them are in s-----y quality. I pray someday we get the full children of the corn catalogue remastered.

    Mase was dope back then but I always thought he was no where close to as good as Cam’ron.

    Thoughts?
     
    #43
    3
    Ordinary Joel, Zeugma and Fire Squad like this.
    3
    Ordinary Joel, Zeugma and Fire Squad like this.
    Mar 1, 2026
  18. Allis Mines
    Posts: 8,047
    Likes: 14,440
    Joined: Jul 5, 2016

    Allis Mines

    Apr 25, 2020
    That drake bodied meek. Meek won the drake beef in the end. Ever since then Drake cant escape ghost writing accusations.
     
    #36
    3
    asvdawg, Buddha and Ordinary Joel like this.
    3
    asvdawg, Buddha and Ordinary Joel like this.
    Mar 1, 2026
  19. RetiredAccount
    Posts: 11,791
    Likes: 22,247
    Joined: Nov 28, 2014

    RetiredAccount Big Time Stuntin Like My Daddy

    Apr 25, 2020
    Ma$e is a top 10 rapper imo
     
    #35
    3
    Ordinary Joel, Winter and Fire Squad like this.
    3
    Ordinary Joel, Winter and Fire Squad like this.
    Mar 1, 2026
  20. Mikey
    Posts: 7,911
    Likes: 15,923
    Joined: Feb 15, 2011

    Mikey

    Apr 25, 2020
    Dre;s Compton album is disappointing or not good
    (Just listened & it is better than any mainstream album released in the last 3-4 years) Great album.
     
    #34
    3
    dkdnfbdjdkdddjdjfvcgfl, Michael Myers and Ordinary Joel like this.
    3
    dkdnfbdjdkdddjdjfvcgfl, Michael Myers and Ordinary Joel like this.
    Mar 1, 2026