Jul 29, 2020

He practically said Em is only good because of Dre. Because a black man helped him. This some racist as f--- s---.

 

Jul 30, 2020

did you guys notice he said "one thou-wow" lol

to me ranking rappers by discography is a bad method. biggie has 2 albums. there's no way you can compare that to someone like jay-z who has over 10. outkast is awesome but had they made more than just 5 albums they would very likely have some weak ones.

this is why i hate the idea that "eminem's legacy is tarnished because of some of the albums he put out in the last decade". naturally when an artist keeps making music over and over again they are going to have some average or even below average records. there are legendary artists in music that have made 20 albums or more and obviously there are several weak ones. but the point is the great stuff they crafted is what raised them to legendary status in the first place

 

Jul 31, 2020

It seems to me that, to a lot of people but especially to black people in hip hop, relatable = good. Every time people explain why eminem is not on their list they say things like "i cant relate to him hating his mother, serial killer thing", etc. Snoop is like that too.

Its almost like you can make a s-----y, simple song thats relatable and automatically its better than Stay Wide Awake because of the content.

Well, let me tell you, you have to start distinguishing relatable from good. I can't relate to a guy killing his old landlord with an axe, but Crime and Punishment is a brilliant book.

...and I can relate to nerds who can't get a date, but The Big b--- Theory sucks

 

Jul 31, 2020

^ lol

 

Jul 29, 2020

his opinion is fine. The funny part tho is how he said Dre helped Em find his best self which Dre also did for Snoop lol

 

Jul 30, 2020

You think snoop smoked an ounce and drew this himself?? He just posted it cause he was in it

 

Jul 30, 2020

Snoop has always been dismissive of Eminem IMO, b---- Please sequel aside. This isn't the first time he's diminished him, or his place in rap. Could be interpersonal, could be skin, idk. @Donkey Kong Cuntry has a point though - rap's mostly been about spotlighting the black experience in America. Though that bottomline sometimes undercuts the role of international, latino voices too IMO. So it's not wholllllllllllly African American. And, as its been said, Eminem represented a LMC and working class segment of hip hop in a way that , sayy, Beastie Boys never did, and even some black artists didnt. So, i dunno, it's a tent. I think Snoop is being fair in his assessment - ten is a finite number - but he's also clearly being a dusty HHH, and it's twinged with that somewhat-jealous eyeroll sensation of a peer who probably finds the cultish hype around Em annoying.

Also, I think the strike against Future is he's kind of like an R&B infused rap hybrid. To me anyway. Feels weird to put him in the same category as KRS etc. Just my take.

 

Jul 31, 2020

Can we please bring back exposures for this bs

 

Jul 30, 2020

Snoop wouldn't put Future in his top 10 at all either. He actually ripped him and migos apart lol

 

Jul 29, 2020

Snoop Dogg is not on anyone's top list

 

Jul 30, 2020

Eminem looks exactly like this lesbian woman that works out at my gym.

 

Jul 30, 2020

I don't think Snoop has ever totally been comfortable with Em. He has a history of making these kinds of remarks over the years. Almost like he tries to bait Em every few years.

 

Jul 29, 2020

Didn’t snoop say Slick Rick was the greatest rapper ever? I’m willing to bet almost all of the rappers in snoops top 10 are people from the 80s to early 90s more so than anyone who came after that era. I don’t think the main reason em isn’t in his top 10 is because he’s white, it’s because he came almost a decade after his favorite era ended.

Just like my Top 10 is mostly people from the 90s to early 2000s. But if you ask someone who is 10-15 years younger than me, their top 10 will probably include people from the late 2000s into the 2010s (for example, most of their lists will probably include Wayne and/or drake).

I don’t know if I explained myself correctly but I think it’s just whatever era you love most is what will influence your top 10 the most.

 

Jul 29, 2020

Not sure Em would crack my top 10 these days. Revival alone puts him close but idk if he is better than

Tech N9ne
Logic
Hopsin
NF
Token
Joyner Lucas
Ces Cru
Prozak
ICP
Jared Benton
Kriz Kaliko
Missy Elliot

 

Jul 29, 2020

Skin colour is a bs reason to deny somebody a place in anything.

 

Aug 3, 2020

well yeah before Eminem there was vanilla ice and maybe that guy who sings that “informer licky boom boom down” song? but it’s still safe to say whites weren’t really taken as seriously/respected in the hip hop scene back then

snoop didn’t say Eminem isn’t a good rapper because he’s white he said he was lucky to blow up back then when he did because of Dre. Which is true since he was still washing dishes and stuck in the underground scene while much worse black rappers than Eminem had easier times getting record deals. Even Dre only heard about Eminem because of that interscope employee or whatever who happened to hear Eminem got his tape which eventually made its way to Dre, who saw his skill and potential and had the power and influence to promote and push Eminem to the public.

At the end of the day Eminem’s skills alone (As great as they were) didn’t mean much in those days without some big important people/labels in the rap industry (pretty much entirely black dominated) putting you in the mainstream spotlight. In those days even for blacks it wasn’t that easy. There was no soundcloud you had to know people who know people and be at the right place at the right time

its safe to say Eminem was lucky his tape managed to make its way to dre. Not a black man saves poor hopeless white man thing. More like because of a the way the industry was back then, the stars happened to align just right for eminem and dre.

 

Aug 2, 2020

Well it's true eminem got lucky with dre but dre also got lucky with eminem because back then em was actually really good. Dre didn't help eminem become a good lyricist. Dre can't write lyrics to save his life lol. But at this point in time eminem has more bad/mediocre albums than good ones imo so maybe it's not far fetched to say he's since fallen off the top 10 of all time. Having said that, Snoop is even worse. Also 80s rap was f---ing horrible come on. The further back you go the worst the lyrics get.

"I said a hip, hop, the hippie, the hippie, to the hip hip-hop, and you don't stop the rock it to the b----b---, boogie say "up jump" the boogie to the rhythm of the boogie, the beat." Nice..

btw nothing snoop said was racist or blamed eminem's skin colour for not being a top 10 lol. It's true that white rappers weren't really taken seriously before eminem isn't it? He just said that applied to eminem too until dre took him, which is true

 

Jul 31, 2020

But it’s not just 1 classic imo. He revolutionized the mixtape game and released the single greatest mixtape of all time in Guess Who’s Back. And that alone is one of the greatest rap projects ever released. Plus most of Power of the Dollar is all classic songs (although I’ll grant you this was never officially released). And then he followed up GRODT with the massacre which was a really great album, just not GRODT level.

Post massacre he’s always released at a bare minimum good albums (if not better than good). Plus beg for mercy and all his features? I think it’s fair to put him in the discussion.