Aug 23, 2020We don’t all hate Lord Jamar. His contributions to Hip Hop as part of Brand Nubian are major. Just because people heard of him in the last few years because of some Vlad YouTube Hot Takes doesn’t change that fact. Jamar is a 5 Percenter. Everything he says is pretty much how they see the world and 5 Percent ideology is a huge part of Hip Hop history, whether you agree with it or not.
Eminem, especially in recent years, has tried his best to show respect to the artists he grew up listening to. He’s spoken to them in interviews, spoken about them and you see it in the t-shirts he wears. He’s constantly wearing shirts that feature Golden Age Hip Hop album covers. Em also famously referenced years ago that he used to dress up in African apparel during Hip Hop’s Afrocentric phase, Brand Nubian being a major part of that phase. If it weren’t for his beef with Jamar, he would probably have on Brand Nubian t-shirts in public. He’s very much aware of their importance as a group overall. So while he dissed Jamar he still came back and confirmed that he was a guest in Hip Hop like Jamar had stated (the Crooked I/Em interview).
I don’t know why he doesn’t respond to some of these other rappers but I think on some level, because he’s a “Hip Hop Head”, he’s had to give these mixed responses to Jamar’s comments, dissing him but also confirming some of his comments. Almost hedging his bets, so that he doesn’t bow down to a legend but also agrees with him to some degree. I think Jamar’s impact means more to Em personally than Gucci or Rick. Em had to be a Brand Nubian fan growing up based on his age, knowledge of Hip Hop and the things he’s said in the past. So while Jamar doesn’t mean a whole lot to people nowadays, there was a time when he was one of the top artists in the industry and that was the same time that Em was an impressionable, young fan. Eminem grew up listening to Golden Era Hip Hop artists. They ultimately mean more to him than more recent artists.
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Em scared to go against real rappersn9ne, Fire Squad, Jeans and 8 others like this. -
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Well ross kinda took back his shots against Em in 2010
As such, earlier today while walking the red carpet Ross had nothing but praise for Shady, whose performance he watched during VMA rehearsals.
"I actually had a chance to sit through the whole rehearsal yesterday man and got to watch Eminem rehearse and perform for the first time," Ross said. "You know, I gotta salute him, I gotta take my hat off. He's a dope lyricist, actually seeing him in person brought his rhymes that much more alive to me. I'm actually looking forward to seeing Eminem do his thing."asvdawg, Ordinary Joel, Detroit24 and 4 others like this.Nov 21, 2025(This ad goes away when signing up) -
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that's because he sucksGuma, Thy, Ordinary Joel and 3 others like this. -
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Aug 24, 2020
I think he made more good songs but I do agree 90% of them are because of others (dre, kanye, good features)Ordinary Joel, hargydon, DKC and 2 others like this. -
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Aug 23, 2020
Ross remained the same. You act like Ross was some unknown rapper at the time he battled 50. 50 had the better diss records, 50 had the overall better everything, so how can you say Ross won. All Ross did was continue to make music that ppl liked. Also remember 2010 was the first time Ross album didn’t debut at number 1. All I can say is Ross survived that battle.Guma, BIGFOOT, Ordinary Joel and 2 others like this. -
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Disagree. 50 was already not making a lot of music at the time and nothing Ross did or said to 50 affected him negatively. On the other hand 50 embarrassed the f--- out of Ross. Had his baby momma and kid and took them on a shopping spree. Relentlessly ripping him apart. While Ross was bigger than 50 at the time musically and had good success I don't think any of that would have changed if there was no beef with 50. In fact you could probably say he'd have more fans as 50 really pushed the "snitch cop" profile on himGuma, Ordinary Joel, Jb27 and 2 others like this. -
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Aug 25, 2020
WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU/PEOPLE
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Simple mathematics my dude.asvdawg, Ordinary Joel, RetiredAccount and 1 other person like this. -
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Game >>> Ross by a large margin if we being honestasvdawg, Ordinary Joel, Guma and 1 other person like this.Nov 21, 2025(This ad goes away when signing up) -
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Ross dissed em in 2009 or 2010 and apologized, so there’s that. Also Ross didn’t do s--- to 50 career Ross definitely lost that beef. Now w I don’t have no excuse for Gucci thoOrdinary Joel, Kujaku67, Guma and 1 other person like this. -
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Jamar was pretty much obsessed and in love with Em. It was weird.Ordinary Joel, Kujaku67, Mudkip and 1 other person like this. -
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Aug 25, 2020
hes made so much music, theres absolutely some high quality gems once u cut the fat.
am i feelin u right @hargydon ayyyy
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Aug 24, 2020
Yup. You’ve got Documentary, Devil’s Advocate basically full projects of hitters, a couple off LAX, half of RED & a few off Jesus Piece as well. That’s ignoring all mixtapes & features along the way. It’s a shame Dre didn’t drop mid-2000s Detox too, I bet there was some crazy classic Game & 50 verses on that.
Rick Ross hasn’t got 1 song touching Documentary in my opinion.
I really enjoy the Rather You Than Me project though.
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Aug 24, 2020
ayyy yes. do it m8.
ayyy yes. d2 and d2.5 were pretty good. ( i remember lovingggg Dont Trip when it dropped.) born 2 rap was not bad??? BC sniffing glue again smh..Michael Myers, Ordinary Joel and hargydon like this. -
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Game's made approximately 7 million songs, easily 20 top tier even if 99% of his discography is trash.asvdawg, Ricky and Ordinary Joel like this. -
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But if we being truly truly honest Rick Ross is a correctional officer that claimed to be a Teflon don drug kingpin, he deserves an a--- whooping.
Game would smash Ross in a versus battle imo...Ordinary Joel, hargydon and lil uzi vert stan like this.