Eminem How hungry is a Relapsed Eminem?

Started by Loyalty, Jan 29, 2015, in Eminem Add to Reading List

  1. Goku187
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    Not even sure where to start with this horrible, horrible post ("go to Rap Genius" :'( "never before heard revelations" :'( "not a three syllable rhyme in sight" :'(), but let's start here: plz list all six metaphors from the opening line of Like Toy Soldiers.

    not to mention, even if your points here were good (they aren't, they're embarrassing and perfectly indicative of how you overanalyze Marshall's music), you're being disingenuous. Like Toy Soldiers is the only truly high-quality song on Encore on a lyrical level. Much easier to use it to prop up the album because it's an outlier. That's like me using Drips to explain to you why The Eminem Show is s--- - it wouldn't be a fair look at the album. You aren't writing paragraphs defending Rain Man and Just Lose It and Puke because they aren't songs worth defending - but they're far more par for the course on Encore than Like Toy Soldiers is.

    Jesus Christ, will you listen to yourself? "how many people he helps"??? It's hard to read cringeworthy s--- like this. Particularly when you're contrasting it with Marshall, who has shown contempt for his fans for years.
     
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    edited. if you want a real response I'll write one
     
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    :clap:
     
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  4. Goku187
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    ...dk what that means, knew you wouldn't actually respond though lol
     
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    dude are you for real

    his first six possible meanings for just the word soldier off the top of my head
    being an actual solder on a battlefield
    being a perfect dad (wayne's kids are a joke and nori's mom is kim k superstar js)
    being a competitive rapper (arguably the best ever)
    being a decent son
    being part of a respectable crew
    being an appropriate role model for millions
     
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    your move shitbag

    I should make get thrown into a throne better watch the f---in tone that you speak my tagline. koolo is there a character limit?
     
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    Only 3 of those made sense

    Idk if you know this but soldier=/=father, son or role model

    Fathers and sons and role models can BE soldiers, but in that case Kanyes opening lines of Jesus Walks are triple that because n----s can be fathers, sons, moms, daughters, owners, criminals, lawyers, government officials, and soldiers, which loops back into the 6"metaphors" you listed
     
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    kanye didn't write that doe
     
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    He did. The only thing that was ghostwritten was the hook
     
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  10. Goku187
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    what the f--- :'(

    there's not a single note in the entire song that suggests that it's about being a decent son. Not a single moment suggests that

    Nor are there signs that it's about being a father.

    It certainly isn't about being a literal soldier lmfaaoooo

    This is why people have trouble debating with Eminem fans. You're packing a whole bunch of meaning into a song that isn't actually there. And yet you're so convinced of it (for some reason) that you can't be reached on an intellectual level, I won't be able to talk you out of it despite the total lack of evidence supporting your point. Do you REALLY think if you asked Eminem, his response would be "Uhhhh yeah. The song's about being a role model and a son and a literal soldier. That's what I intended for you to take from it." :'( No, it may SEEM more important to you but in reality it's merely a song about "rap beef". It's a very good song about "rap beef", but that's all it is. You just took everything that soldier COULD be a metaphor for, that also applies to Em, and assumed that he meant it in that nature. It's all in your head lol. There are no context clues suggesting you're right, and in fact it wouldn't make sense if you were because it totally distracts from the point of the song. He pretty explicitly spells out what he's talking about, there's no reason to believe there's this overarching symbolism like you're saying.

    But yeah, keep going through life thinking Like Toy Soldiers is about Eminem being a decent son!!
     
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    nice work staying on topic
     
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    implying rap wasn't a way to give his daughter a better life and that everything he did between 1988 and 1998 wasn't solely for her benefit

    implying eminem doesn't listen to his own s--- and see how people might interpret it and reflect on his own experiences and experiences of people in similar situations literally or metaphorically when he's writing
     
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  13. Goku187
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    avoiding the substance in my post

    not posting in complete sentences
     
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    posting nothing but conjecture and hearsay then expecting a real discussion
    STILL c-mming over watch the throne
    thinking eminem's fans don't mean anything to him
    debating with someone you feel quote can't be reached intellectually
    not realizing every line of the song soldier goes through em's head when he starts the third single of the very next album with "i'm supposed to be the soldier..."
    you're batting a thousand bro
     
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    Yes
     
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    :drake2:
     
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    This is literally the stupidest thing you've ever uttered. Kanye is probably the artist who cares most about this, and you are an idiot if you think otherwise.
     
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    Name a quadruple entendre by Eminem.... Can't well I'll name one from Kanye:
    "We ain't going anywhere we got suits and cases"
     
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    I'm really happy when a rapper is shouting nonsense on a record, just because it rhymes. It makes me think that I can do it too, and chase my dreams of being the new slim shady. For that alone, Marshall>>.> Kangay haha xd
     
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    he's a walking talking actual quadruple entendre
     
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