Kendrick Lamar Why was "Real" placed so awkwardly ?

Started by Oldboy, Feb 16, 2015, in Kendrick Lamar Add to Reading List

  1. Oldboy
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    Feb 16, 2015
    i think the reason most people hate on this classic song, is the awkward place it had

    dying of thirst was a PERFECT ending...then you get Compton playing as the end credit

    wtf where they thinking placing real between them?
     
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  2. Term-X
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    Feb 16, 2015
    I don't think the placement was the issue, the album needed to end on a higher note and we needed those voice messages to tie it all together. The problem was the execution of the song itself, not as bad as people make out though.
     
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  3. Goku187
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    because that makes the most sense in the context of the story

    Unfortunately it's a mediocre song and wouldn't have worked much better anywhere else on the album
     
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  4. Oldboy
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    f--- the context...dying of thirst with the skit after it shoulda ended the album
     
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    if you were to re-arrange the tracklist where would you put it ?
     
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    dying of thirst was the falling action. he wanted a track to connect the falling action to the conclusion, which was compton. he wanted a track where he finally reflects and comes to terms with what it means to be "real"

    he just failed at making a good song, it happens
     
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    Real would have made more sense as a bonus track tbh, didnt think it fitted the album apart from the skit at the end. After black boy fly
     
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    Here is 'the making of real', a video of Terrace Martin explaining how it came to be..

    http://cms.springboardplatform.com/embed_iframe/959/video/649513/ddto001/ddotomen.com/10

    Seems like Kendrick had a lot of control over the sound
     
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    my favorite song on the album
     
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    Kendrick wanted to express at the end of the album, to everyone who didn't already know, that "he's real, he's real, he's really really real"
     
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    One of my favourite off the album I dont see people's problem with it
     
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  12. tiiico
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    The song is GOAT. Only reason people hate on it is cause of the hook. Understandable. However, the overall quality of the song is up there with the rest of the album. And that ending skit though!!! :hovcry::wiggins:

    "If I don't hear from you by tomorrow, I hope you come back and learn from your mistakes. Come back a man, tell your story to these black and brown kids in Compton. Let 'em know you was just like them, but you still rose from that dark place of violence, becoming a positive person. But when you do make it, give back with your words of encouragement, and that's the best way to give back. To your city...And I love you Kendrick, if I don't hear you knocking on the door you know where I usually leave the key. Alright? Talk to you later, bye."

    The song really shows how much of an impact Kendrick's parents had on him. They really wanted what was best for him, but Kendrick hasn't fully understood the meaning of being "real," yet. It wasn't until after the events of Swimming Pools, a turning point in the album, that Kendrick has come into realization of what's really going on in his life. The song sing about me, i'm dying of thirst (IMO best song on the album) illustrates a mature Kendrick who has finally "learned from [his] mistakes" and who is ready to begin his "new life," his "real life." (as mentioned in the ending skit of dying of thirst). IMO Real is placed perfectly in the album. It defines what "real" means via Kendrick's dad, and it defines Kendrick's purpose in life. The song Real also teases that Kendrick will eventually be signed by "Top Dawg," in which he will use his rap platform to carry on his purpose. The outcome? Compton. A culmination/celebration of the entire project and a representation of what Kendrick stands for, as a whole. Kendrick stands for Compton. It's his responsibility to advance and progress his city by "curing" it of all it's problems because "real is responsibility; real is taking care of your motherfucking family." Family has a double meaning:
    • Literal meaning of actual family/relatives
    • An analogy for the city of Compton as a community
    It's only fitting that Compton follows Real because Kendrick is rapping with Dre. He's made it to the top. He's fulfilling his duty to his city by telling his story.

    "Let 'em know you was just like them, but you still rose from that dark place of violence, becoming a positive person. But when you do make it, give back with your words of encouragement, and that's the best way to give back. To your city..." --Mama Kendrick

    The song Real is perfectly placed. good kid m.A.A.d city is a COMPLETE masterpiece. Anyone who is hating on Real doesn't want to accept the fact that the project is perfect.

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    Should've been Real, SAMIDOT, Compton
     
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    Is this gonna be on the midterm?
     
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    i honestly dont know how people hate on this song

    one of my favorites on the album

    yall are crazy:snoop:
     
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    its beautifully produced and the hook isnt even bad

    and the bars and skit at the end hits the soul

    its soul music faggets, feel it
     
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    http://cms.springboardplatform.com/embed_iframe/959/video/649515/ddto001/ddotomen.com/10


    Part two to those interested
     
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    the real is just him reflecting about everything that has happened narratively it is perfect placement especially with the skits and then he ends on a positive note with Compton

    he starts bad and ends good. the circle of lifes problems and the album.


    yall trippin:westbrook2:
     
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    4 posts in a row? Calm down there keyboard warrior.
     
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    :king:
     
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