Best Posts: "IT IS NOT ABOUT LYRICS ANYMORE"

  1. Lucy
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    Lucy #1

    Aug 15, 2021
    You need a balance of both. I know plenty of bangers I love but only when I'm drunk because the lyrics are so s---/boring/or too repititive - it makes the whole listening experience for the song cheapened. Like when you hear a rapper you like and they just sound monotonous and like they don't give a f---, compared to other artists who you can actually hear the emotion and passion they are putting into it.

    But s--- that's too lyrical miracle for me is the same, I don't wanna hear a new song and pause it/rewind it every 4 seconds cause some fuckhead is stroking his ego by spitting quadruple time flow and saying the most """intellectual""" s--- they can it's like ugh f--- off I'm tryna have fun not listen to a university lecture from a rapid speaking Indian accented c----
     
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  2. Winter
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    Winter Super Comfy

    Aug 15, 2021
    All styles are valid
     
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  3. Ricky
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    Ricky Hip-Hop CEO ™

    Aug 15, 2021
    I'm all in for the lyrics.
     
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  4. King Tadpole
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    King Tadpole Arizona Sky LP by Tadpole

    Aug 16, 2021
    If a movie had a good script, but the directing and acting were bad, would it still be a good movie?
     
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  5. Chrollo
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    Chrollo Moderator

    Aug 16, 2021
    Not true. I still pay attention to all the lyrics of the songs I'm listening to. It just has to sound good and it has to feel real! Not some fabricated bs just for the sake of spitting, because the person has nothing else to say anymore. I love Nas new album for example because it combines all those things. I still need a decent beat that I can vibe with though. Some rappers just take a beat from 2013 they found on their harddrive and think they can save the song purely by rapping fast and doing some multi syllable lyrical miracle s---. You're not that guy pal, trust me. You're not that guy.
     
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  6. Antman
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    Antman No Cap

    Aug 15, 2021
    Honestly, you understate the south bc you don’t like “trap drums,” so you unfairly alienate a whole demographic of artists.

    If you actually took the time to listen to these guys, majority are saying something. But you guys label things as “mumble rap” or “generic trap stuff.” These young cats telling stories and experiences.

    lyrics are there, I don’t think you’re listening fairly.
     
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  7. Slyk
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    Slyk God made a prophet.

    Aug 15, 2021
    i have a difficult time listening to 8th grade level lyrics / mindset. i don't need a 4:44 old wise man telling me the ways of the world and his investments in fine art, but i also don't want an angsty/pubescent teenager talking about how he'll slap your hoe, f--- yo b----, and eat peppers out of a hookers a--- all day either.

    be smart/smart-ish or be clever.
     
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  8. Winter
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    Winter Super Comfy

    Aug 15, 2021
    To give a more detailed response, I don’t think it’s that clear cut. Yeah there are a lot of rappers out right now who are focused more on melody and experimenting with sound over technical writing, but there’s definitely room for all kinds of rappers to be successful. Em, Jay, and Kendrick are still some the absolute biggest names in rap, Nas just debuted at #5. There’s been more a shift in the prevalent style of rap in recent years, but it’s not like that’s all there is.
     
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  9. Michael Myers
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    Michael Myers Moderator

    Aug 15, 2021
    "It's about a hot beat, and a catchy hook!"

    No, this thread isn't about the song, altough it was pretty amazing to see Jay, Em, 50 and Dre on the same track. It's about its message; hiphop has shifted from being about storytelling and lyrics, to being catchy regardless of its message/lyrics.

    Do you agree / disagree / to some extent, and why?

    Didn't add a poll because posting/discussing is more important to me than clicking in a poll
     
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  10. DKC
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    DKC hank trill

    Aug 17, 2021
    why? does it

     
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  11. jankland
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    jankland In My Cringe Arc.

    Aug 15, 2021
    I think I agree to some extent but that's mostly for radio music and idk if a lot of radio music was lyrical in the first place it's just that the sound shifted

    The reason I enjoy rap is that people are usually able to convey their clever and witty side so I enjoy lyrics but other times I'm okay with slightly lesser or more cryptic writing if they're delivering a certain mood but obviously the artists that combine both sides are going to be the real standouts
     
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  12. Boos
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    Boos Nova Nation

    Aug 18, 2021
    those are fighting words
     
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  13. Flacko
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    Flacko Too Blessed To Be Humble

    Aug 18, 2021
    Coughing up from all the dust in this thread
     
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  14. icecube
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    icecube West Coast is the Best Coast

    Aug 16, 2021
    Disagree. There's a place for both but the sound is what people feel the most. So as much as the beat and hook seems most popular it doesn't mean that there's no place for lyrical prowess.
     
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  15. LasiK
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    LasiK d-mn fine coffee

    Aug 15, 2021
    People have been saying this s--- for years. Stop boxing rap into these weird corners. There’s always been and always will be different styles.

    different strokes for different folks. learn to love it all.
     
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  16. Michael Myers
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    Michael Myers Moderator

    Aug 15, 2021
    For the record I said in my post you have songs w good lyrics that (to me) lack replay value, and catchy songs with almost no substance.. but plenty of songs have both!
     
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  17. CARNIFEX
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    CARNIFEX Get The Strap

    Aug 15, 2021
    Defintely not about the lyrics anymore and more so about the sound sonically which is cool. I don't say that as a diss as if there's no talent behind what's popular it's just who the f--- wants to listen to Em or some s--- like that at a party or something you know? Can't see it. The fact that darkness such a well written track probably top 2 as far as lyric wise goes in ems catalog was such a huge flop IMO goes to show that.
     
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  18. joeyp363
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    Aug 17, 2021
    Yes
     
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  19. DKC
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    DKC hank trill

    Aug 17, 2021
    Yup that’s exactly what I mean—I don't care if someone says Harry Potter sucks but the reason it would s--- isn't because it's not written like Ulysses. Harry Potter could be replaced with Game of Thrones or Name of the Wind or any other easy-read fantasy series I just chose HP because it's recognizable. My point was that different authors have different styles in literature and that they both can have value. The same is true for rap—like if you listen to a Playboi Carti album and don't like it that's fine but if you didn't like it because he didn't rap like billy woods it's like ???
     
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  20. Antman
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    Antman No Cap

    Aug 17, 2021
    Half asleep responding, but this has been your opinion on southern based rap for a long time. Has nothing to do with your post here. This goes from your Migos opinion, to your opinion on trap production, and so on. I feel like a lot of non-US members here rly don’t understand the south or the records they’re producing.

    a lot of members are don’t even know what’s out there
     
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