Sep 29, 2022

Most people don't realize how much of an influence the Bass Brothers had behind Eminem as an artist and just his overall sound.

You can see here in the Bass Brothers production credits.






Bass Brothers disappear right around the same time Em's music direction and overall sound completely changes. Em's been flip flopping around with flows, cadences and trying to find an identity ever since.

There's no doubt that the Bass Brothers was one of the main driving forces behind the Eminem music a lot of us grew up with and loved. Em always knew how to rap, but the bass brothers really helped him turn that into actual music.

 

Sep 29, 2022

Only way to fix Em is to bring back the Bass Brothers.

 

Oct 4, 2022

As mentionned previously Bass Brothers pretty much taught Em how to rap on beat. How to turn rapping into music.

When I said he needs the Bass Brothers, it's not about what they can bring to the table as far as production. It's about guidance and having a second opinion. He can still seek whoever he wants for production.

These days Em has no one to tell him "no this is wack. Your flow sounds terrible. You should do this it will sound better". And it's not Just Blaze, Illadaproducer or whoever he hires for beats that's going to tell him something shouldn't be done a certain way.

Veterans also need mentors and guidance. Even world champions have a head coach to tell them "you f----- up, wake the f--- up and remember what I taught you".

 

Sep 29, 2022

Side A+B didn't restore it by any means, but they didn't damage it any further which is actually pretty good for him at this point.

 

Oct 4, 2022

People often underestimate how important producers can be in music. Even the greatest of artists sometimes need some help being nudged in the right direction. There’s no shame in having help with your music. In fact, it’s smart to have other sets of ears there

 

Sep 29, 2022

Eminem will forever be considered one of the GOATs by certain people no matter what he puts out. With that being said, he has irreparably tarnished his legacy. Every album of his since Encore has had majority mixed reviews or bad reviews. I bring that up because the narrative that the opinion of the majority creates plays a heavy hand in his “legacy” and whether or not he has one.

The narrative right now for anyone 30 and under is that Eminem is washed up. I come from one of the “newer generations” and most people my age or younger look at Eminem as an embarrassing cornball who takes himself too seriously but used to be great. Eminem hasn’t given the younger generation much music they vibe with, and that’s a problem. Once the old Eminem fans die, the younger generations will dictate the narrative that could ultimately shape how he’s looked at for the rest of time.

There’s no saving his legacy, he will never be able to shake these narratives that have been created for him now. Just look at how much s--- Michael Jackson, Elvis, Tupac, etc. get these days. At least they were still putting out music the majority f----- with when they died, but not Eminem. So imagine how bad it will be for Em in the future. And based on his recent XXL interview, it’s clear that he has no intentions of even trying to save his legacy. He’s going to cram as many syllables as he can into each s-----y punchline/pun filled bar over boring beats until he dies. There’s no reason to believe otherwise at this point.

He has served the fans s--- filled plate after s--- filled plate for over a decade now, and frankly, I’m fed up with it. Like I said in the Eminem thread, one more mediocre album and I’m done being a fan. I’m not the only one who feels this way either. Other legends knew when to stop or died before they could keep going. Eminem won’t stop.

 

Oct 4, 2022

Classic. It’s obvious this is where the magic came from lol.

 

Oct 4, 2022

Now it’s just Paul & Luis Resto… god help us

 

Sep 30, 2022

He never lost it. MMLP2 was the biggest rap album that year with 2 Massive hits. Revival was still a Multi-platinum record and one of the biggest rap records that year, Kamikaze was the best selling rap album that year, same with MTBMB. Spawning Billion stream hit singles and soundtrack songs. Also if you wanna ignore actual records sales and just talk rapping impact; Em created an entire sector of YouTube reactors community and YouTube post-SoundCloud era rappers. If you want to ignore that and just be on some technical rap ish. He has only gotten better at lyricism over time. So idk what people are talking about. Godzilla streams alone make it one of the biggest rap songs of the 2020’s.

 

Sep 29, 2022

His legacy is cemented. You know once he's gone he'll get all of the flowers. Em could put out a dozen more Revivals and this wouldn't change. His work since has been a solid improvement though. Might not get another classic out of him but I'll gladly take some more MTBMB level projects.

 

Oct 4, 2022

Fax homie

 

Oct 4, 2022

No but Dr. Dre's confidence is. So even he can't be trusted to be a mentor these days.

Lol true. When your business manager is the one helping you make creative decisions it's not a good look. Especially if it's a fat c---- like Paul.

 

Oct 1, 2022

If you don't die in your prime, most artists will have a decline in their catalogue. Legends too. DMX gets his (deserved) flowers and his later career was mostly horrible.

 

Sep 29, 2022

No, but these albums have been good, people calling them trash just exagerate because it's Em.

Em's second peak was Relapse/Recovery